This should be a lesson to all of us

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This should be a lesson to all of us
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" A Milwaukee man is dead, and a woman working as an exotic dancer faces homicide charges after police say the woman lured the man to her apartment for sex, only to have an armed robbery attempt devolve into murder."

patch.com/wisconsin/milwaukee/exotic-dancer-lured-homicide-victim-milwaukee-sex
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Yeah, meet them at a hotel of your choosing. Never go to their house.
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Sounds like he had been there before; that's tough because you think you have a business relationship.
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Damn. How sad, to be killed just for trying to have sex with an ugly skank.
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These stories are out there, I run into at least a few of them per year. It's far from unheard of, and a good reason NOT to be cavalier about safety when it comes to OTC. I probably go overboard in this regard, but regardless, engaging in an activity for years and never running into safety problems makes it MORE likely that you'll start feeling safe and drop your guard and may make you more likely to be victimized, not less; a guy who has never OTCed will be in condition orange and aware from the get-go.

And again not to be cavalier, but why is it that when you read these stories and see a pic of the stripper, she is the most horrible skank ever... I see these stories expecting to think "the stripper was so fucking hot that she practically hypnotized him into letting down his guard and making poor choices", and instead, it's always girls who seem to be about as hot as a street hooker.
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The potential for shit like this is exactly why I always make them come to my hotel room, though something that looked like that wouldn't be receiving an invitation to my hotel room either.

But with that said, the guy obviously didn't deserve to die just because he was incautious or willing to fuck an ugly girl. That really sucks. But let it be a lesson about taking precautions when dealing with a girl taken out of a club.
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though something that looked like that wouldn't be receiving an invitation to my hotel room either.

^^^^Cmon now rickyboy, evr1 no u be beatn dwn her door ifn she wuz willn 2 taek 1 ov ur lowball offerz!
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^Tranzlashun: I b a retard.
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What a dumb bitch, 22 y/o and throwing her life away over a few bucks - these young dumb bitches keep hooking up w/ thugs whom totally fuck up their lives.


As others have said, best to take precautions and stick to those but as rockstar mentioned they seemed to have known each other and I'm sure many a TUSCLer has been in a similar situation of going to pick up an OTCee since so many of them don't drive.
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Yep, once I've been with a girl a few times, I lower my guard, too
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I confess that I sometimes go to a stripper's home for sex. But these are strippers I know from Detroit clubs and who have been to my house. I feel I know them, but I am going to exercise even more caution in the future. I might be confronted by a drugged out pimp or a jealous boyfriend.
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Damn I thought that photo was of a man. WTF was this guy thinking.
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The chick does look boyish especially with that hair but if she put on a long flowing wig and had a curvy body she probably would look much more desirable
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But yeah at first I thought I was looking at a pic of the male victim
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Where are all the stories bout guys getting killed banging a chic ITC? Poor slob decided OTC was a good way to save a few bucks (like many here) and paid the highest price possible.
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^ IMO most guys OTC b/c they feel it's a different/better experience, not to save $$$ - often times they may pay more for OTC to entice/convince the dancer
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I almost never do ITC and I'm not really trying to save a few bucks most of my OTC activity is restricted to just 3 dancers whom I have known for more than a few years and almost exclusively at their home unless we have something planned. Even so it is smart to be careful if I was to go with a new girl I would thoroughly check them out and wouldn't meet the first time at their home.
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To those saying she looks like a sw, she doesn't. She just looks like a man.
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Here's the club, which has pretty good reviews:
www.tuscl.net/club.php?id=2176

The guy drove half a block and around the corner before crashing. The nearest non-residential building in the direction he was headed is the Christ Memorial Lutheran Church. Right next door is Reid's New Golden Gate funeral home. If only he could have made it nine more blocks.
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Some of us get to know our strippers on a level so personal we may know more about them than we do of our own children (for those of us that have kids). Gawker and JS69 have told some interesting personal stories but most others have not other than jackslash sharing his dinner menu. Something made me think of my retired ATF the other day and it made me think of her fall from grace to virtually nothing, and I thought I would share how crazy her life has been.

She came from a normal middle class family in a small town in Idaho. After graduating high school she went to a small college on a volleyball scholarship. By Halloween of her freshman year she had become pregnant. Finishing her first semester taking off the spring to have the baby, she left the child with her mom and went back to school the following fall to try again. Once again, getting pregnant, dropping out for good at the end of the semester. 19 with two children, no baby daddy money and no future. Somehow she winds up in Texas, stripping and banging pro athletes (she was that hot even after having two kids). Several boyfriends, a few husbands and next thing you know, she's 30 stripping in Vegas, divorced 4 times, 4 kids now, but 2 of the kids were lost in custody battles and live full time with their dads. Eventually she makes enough money and moves to Arizona commuting on the weekends to Vegas to strip when she needs money. Some weekends she'd clear 5K and wouldn't have to return for a month, other times she'd have to go every weekend for a month just to make rent. Living in a nice 5 bedroom house (just her and 2 of her kids) paying $2,400 a month rent, but no furniture and no car after she totaled her car in an accident. She would fly to Vegas or rent a car when she could afford it, when times were tough she'd take a bus.

About 10 months had gone by since I had last spent time with her, so I asked her to join me for Labor Day weekend in Vegas. She was so proud to be able to pay for her own flight to meet me. I let her pay for it too, since it was a big deal for her. She told me how she started putting her profile on Sugar Daddy sites and started web camming which were two things I didn't even know existed (this was around 2010). She was making good money, enough money she didn't have to go to Vegas anymore and could stay home full time. One year in she got some facial work (botox) done and spent a shit-ton on upgrading her implants to some big fake titties. Her enhancements looked overdone in person, but she looked like a 10 viewing her on a 24 inch computer screen online in the dim light. Guys flooded her cam room, and she placed 2nd, 4th and 6th in consecutive months on her cam site, making as much as $100K in one month. No joke. Like most people who have come upon a financial windfall - going from camming making $50-60K a year to making over $250,000 in 3 months she spent the money like it would never end, paying cash to buy her oldest son and her new cars (not Honda Accords), expensive family vacations all summer taking all of her 4 kids, and more plastic surgery, which ended up making her look like the cat woman more than refining her aging face.

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She certainly hasn't had an easy life, but I used to always tell her, every time there's a fork in the road, you always turn the wrong way - almost like she's drawn to the wrong path.


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I think this happens all the time, though for me I probably have not noticed it. Though it is not communicated in the most straight forward and clear manner. It is more in the feelings evoked after I awaken and analyze it.

I posted some week or so ago about a moderate dream with my ex-wife. I log in and she had just sent me a moderate toned email.

But some of the most compelling have been when people died.

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Dream about a former neighbor. Retired carpenter, severe alcoholic, had seizures when he drank. Moved out. A few years latter I had a dream about him, when for some reason I was being tasked with writing his death certificate. Of course this makes no sense as I am not qualified to write any such thing. Because of the intensity of the dream and the associated feelings, and because I and everyone liked this former neighbor, I am sure that that was when he died. But this has never been verified.

Anyone else have dreams which seem to pass on real info?

I believe that most of my dreams do, but usually it does not pertain to the literal people and places of the dream, it can be discerned by examining the feelings evoked.

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