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Strip Club Laws across the USA




With the economy and jobs crises across our country one would think lawmakers priorities should be on FISCAL matters NOT on misguided attempts at legislating everyone's UNIQUE MORALITY.... However, in many cities & states there are proposals to do just that and in most cases it's Republican far right wingers who are initiating these draconian laws.
 
Unfortunately, these politicians and judges have little regard for the many people employed both directly and indirectly by this industry and use the guise of these businesses causing "NEGATIVE SECONDARY EFFECTS" as a means to legislate them out of business by imposing 6 ft. buffer zones between dancers and patrons, limiting the hours of operations, banning alcohol at these businesses and using strict zoning codes for location.  It amazes me that often times the FACTS from POLICE REPORTS show that Convenient stores, Liquor stores and other businesses (such as regular bars) have far more INCIDENTS AND POLICE RUNS than that of strip clubs... Still judges will often rule AGAINST the strip clubs and for these draconian laws based on "moral conduct" laws and interpreting that contact lap dances for $$ = PROSTITUTION... I fail to see the cause-effect negative "secondary effect" link of having a woman set on my lap and gyrate while I caress her as the same thing as sex for $$... and where is the HARM to society when it's 2 CONSENSUAL ADULTS?? Retired Supreme Court Judge David Souter extended the secondary-effects rationale to cover the content of nude dancing.

In conclusion, I am appalled by the relentless ongoing attack of the adult entertainment industry across our country often initiated by right-wing Politicians and groups.  It would be entirely different IF these establishments were indeed magnets for crime and in reality DID have more "negative secondary effects" than other businesses... but most of the times that just ISN'T THE CASE. Entire STATES like OHIO & MISSOURI have anti strip club Draconian laws in place and many clubs have CLOSED in these states. There are proposals in many other states mirroring Missouri & Ohio laws.  I feel for the thousands of good people who have lost their JOBS because of FASCIST-MINDED politicians and groups like CCV, and bad narrow-minded decisions handed down by Judges throughout our country that undermine our basic freedoms in our free? and pluralistic society with many different religious and moral beliefs.
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For those who need to be enlightened, some light reading for the honored wisemen.


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beaver, actually many of the lamest, most restricted strip clubs in the country are in some of the most liberal states and cities. You need to get your facts straight.
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Strip Clubs don't have a lobby now that the mob's influence is almost non-existent.
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rickdugan.... OHIO, MISSOURI are CONSERVATIVE STATES... ironically in CLEVELAND-LIBERAL the laws are loosely enforced and in CINCINNATI-CONSERVATIVE home of CCV laws are STRICTLY ENFORCED. MISSOURI-STATEWIDE LAW WAS INITIATED BY MATT BARTLE- A RIGHT WING REPUBLICAN... Although in some cases Democrats such as in Louisville are the culprit, it is mostly the RELIGIOUS RIGHT WING of the GOP which is the main enemy of adult entertainment even though the TEA PARTY GOP LIBERTARIAN clashes with the Religious right GOP on many issues...In the suburbs of DETROIT, MI-LIBERAL, laws are very "loosely" enforced...I am certain there are areas such as Seattle,-LIBERAL where anti strip club laws are strictly enforced, but again it's the ULTRA CONSERVATIVE RIGHT WING GOP that is the biggest enemy.
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beaver, Democrats are trying to change the Oregon constitution to take down strip clubs.

www.oregonlive.com/news/oregonian/anna_griffin/index.ssf/2011/03/oregons_answer_to_blocking_str.html
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The article reads like they are JUST attempting ZONING REGULATIONS.... Nothing mentioned about "no touch" 6 ft rules, limiting hours of operations... Some zoning limitations aren't all that bad....like not by church or schools...
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"However, in many cities & states there are proposals to do just that and in most cases it's Republican far right wingers who are initiating these draconian laws."

Whoa now, let's take it easy with the fascist comments, and it's actually BOTH of the extremes on the Left & Right in the USA that have it all wrong when it comes to the sex industry.

NY, RI, CT, NJ, MD, MI & CA are all "blue" states where pretty much (with a few exceptions) anything goes in their strip clubs. UT, KY, VA, and soon maybe KS are all "red" states that have pretty restrictive laws on strip clubs and/or pretty lame strip clubs in general. WA, DC, IL, MA & VT are all "blue" states that have pretty lame strip clubs and/or pretty restrictive laws on strip clubs. TX & SC are "red" states where pretty much (with a few exceptions) anything goes in their strip clubs. The so-called battleground states of FL, NV, OH, MO & NH are mostly restrictive when it comes to strip clubs, with the exception of maybe NV & FL.

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"actually many of the lamest, most restricted strip clubs in the country are in some of the most liberal states and cities."

LOL...just ignore our resident noob here kids. As per usual, he hasn't a clue.
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MasterGuy, you are mostly correct.... but ILLINOIS- blue state has some of the country's most "liberal" strip clubs in the country (E. St. Louis area) (Washington Park), but not the entire state as it's lame in Chicago. UTAH-red POLYGAMIST...lol... is probably the lamest state in our country with the most restrictive anti-strip club laws, MISSOURI & OHIO are close behind.
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"With the economy and jobs crises across our country one would think lawmakers priorities should be on FISCAL matters NOT on misguided attempts at legislating everyone's UNIQUE MORALITY."

Why would you think that for a second? Are you new to this country?

"in most cases it's Republican far right wingers who are initiating these draconian laws"

Oh, puhleeeeeeeeeeeze. Dems are just as guilty of legislating morality. They *do* generally have a different set of morals, but they make no less attempt to cram them down my throat and up my @$$ than do the Reps.
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MG: Just a clarification, Louisville, arguably the bluest part of Kentucky, also now has some of the most restrictive laws regarding strip clubs in the state. So the statement "actually many of the lamest, most restricted strip clubs in the country are in some of the most liberal states and cities" has some truth to it.
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Who says American "liberals" can't be Fascist (assuming the term was used colloquially). Conservatives inappropriately infringe on our freedoms because they think sexuality and nudity is evil. Liberals inappropriately infringe on our freedoms because they think strip clubs exploit poor powerless women. They are both wrong in their reasons in my opinion and unamerican in their overreaching disrespect for freedom. But they are equally bad as in most other facets of governance.
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"So the statement 'actually many of the lamest, most restricted strip clubs in the country are in some of the most liberal states and cities' has some truth to it."

No, it really doesn't, as I've shown quite nicely above.
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You are incorrect also about Maryland. Very restrictive with some but not much selective enforcement by county boundaries.
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Lance Kinzer -- the Olathe REPUBLICAN....IMAGINE THAT A RIGHT WING REPUBLICAN. MATT BARTLE-(R) WAS THE MAIN PERSON RESPONSIBLE FOR MISSOURI'S STATE WIDE LAW...
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"No, it really doesn't, as I've shown quite nicely above."

Yes, it really does, as I've shown quite nicely above. I said *some* truth, not completely and precisely accurate.
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Would agree its BOTH the FAR RIGHT & LEFT that are the main enemies. From my observations and studies the FAR RIGHT is slightly more vicious than the left.... Seems like the "CENTRIST" politicians of either party are dying breeds unfortunately...
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LOL...believe whatever you want to gmd...
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Matt Bartle to strippers: Put your shirt on!
​Puritanical Missouri state Sen. Matt Bartle finally struck his death blow against the state's nudie bars yesterday.

After Bartle, a Lee's Summit Republican, threw a tantrum earlier this week in the St. Louis Post-Dispatch ("I've grown really frustrated with an overwhelming Republican Legislature that tells people we support family values and that we're social conservatives. And we can't get a regulation of the porn industry through the Legislature"), lawmakers rose up against lap dances.

Hey, there are elections coming up! May I suggest a "Tough on Titties" campaign slogan?

Bartle's bill, S.B. 586, passed the Senate 27-4 and the House 118-28 on Thursday. Now it goes to Gov. Jay Nixon, who will probably sign it to prove he's, you know, hard. Hard on porn.

If Nixon signs, the law will :

outlaw full nudity in strip clubs.

require a 6-foot buffer between strippers and customers. Touching won't be allowed. No word if nuns will patrol clubs to make sure everyone's leaving room for Jesus.

shut down adult entertainment businesses between midnight and 6 a.m.

outlaw liquor sales at strip clubs as well as drinking on the premises. So no BYOB clubs.

create a 1,000-foot buffer zone between adult businesses and schools, churches, day cares, libraries, parks, homes and other adult businesses.

"Most human beings understand that if you mix alcohol and women dancing in the nude, that's a tough combo," Bartle told The Kansas City Star. "Bad things happen."

Only if you've been shamed into thinking boners are bad. Hey, another slogan!

Bartle may have a point though. Just look at the debauchery.


Don't expect the clubs to take this lying down. A lawsuit is coming.

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Abe 10 months ago
It is unbelievable that in 2010 we are still worried about CONSENTING ADULTS paying a few dollars to have another CONSENTING ADULT stick her tits in his face.

Ben 10 months ago
DON'T LEGISLATE MORALITY!!!!!!!!!!

CAI 10 months ago
Why does he f'ing care?!?!

R Nixon 10 months ago
Go Matt! As a Republican conservative im glad you have finally laid down the law on the adult industry. This country is swimming in the filth of pornography and self distruction at an alarming rate. Im a fraternity man my self and glad to see you upholding the fine standards of the Beta fraternity.
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"LOL...believe whatever you want to gmd..."

Mockery: The tried and true tactic of one attempting to distract from the fact that he can't actually refute the facts or opinions presented.
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Drive stalls in Kan. to restrict adult businesses

www.forbes.com/feeds/ap/2011/03/17/business-us-smut-shops-kansas_8362091.html
Associated Press, 03.17.11, 05:55 PM EDT

TOPEKA, Kan. -- A push in the Kansas Legislature to impose new restrictions on strip clubs and other sexually oriented businesses stalled Thursday because a Senate committee wants to leave the job to cities and counties.

The Federal and State Affairs Committee voted against advancing the proposed Community Defense Act to the full Senate for debate. The panel's voice vote didn't kill the bill, but it remains stuck, despite strong support for the measure in the House, which approved it last week.

The legislation would limit the hours and location of adult businesses, ban total nudity inside them and impose a "no touch" rule for employees and customers. But strip clubs and adult cabarets still would be allowed to serve alcohol, a key concession to club owners meant to ease its way to passage.

As the bill's title implies, supporters argue they're protecting communities from crime, blight and other problems linked to adult businesses, especially in clusters. But senators said cities and counties should impose regulations that work best for them, rather than having the state impose one set of rules.

"Local governments are capable of doing that," said Sen. Tim Owens, an Overland Park Republican who served on his hometown's city council for two decades. "Every different local area may be in a different situation. You have some very small communities where one of these places would impact them a lot differently than in a metropolitan area."

Supporters argue the bill is necessary because small communities often don't have the resources to fight adult businesses if their owners are willing to challenge restrictions or adverse zoning decisions in court. Backers have presented information from numerous studies linking adult businesses to problems, some dating back decades.
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Phillip Cosby, executive director of the Kansas City-area office of the National Coalition for the Protection of Children and Families, questioned whether the committee could adequately review those studies as it squeezed its hearing, discussion and a vote into little more than an hour.

"They waded through 40 years of evidence of negative effects and made a subjective call," said Cosby, also a retired Army master sergeant from Overland Park. "I can't imagine how they could have weighed that with intellectual honesty in such a short amount of time."

Cosby said he and other supporters will look for ways to get around the committee's resistance. Senate rules allow its members to pull a bill out of a committee over its objections, but such a move requires 24 of 40 votes, rather than a simple majority of 21. Supporters also could try to amend the bill's provisions into other legislation as well.

The bill's restrictions would apply not only to strip clubs, adult cabarets, book and video stores, shops that sell sex toys and adult arcades, but also to non-academic semi-nude modeling studios and "sexual encounter centers," defined as business that allow patrons of the opposite sex to wrestle or tumble together semi-nude.

The measure would require adult businesses to remain closed from midnight to 6 a.m. and prohibit new businesses within 1,000 feet of the property line of existing similar businesses or any school, library, day care center or house of worship. Semi-nude dancers at clubs would have to keep at least 6 feet away from their customers.

"The whole concept is to close them," said John Samples, the owner of two Topeka-area clubs. "They can talk whatever they want - but that's the reality."

Samples said if clubs go out of businesses, employees who are trying to provide for their families will be forced into seeking social services from the state. He also said his clubs are a safer environment for his workers than bars because of the security measures he uses.

Owens also questioned the studies on problems associated with such businesses, saying they're from other states. Committee Chairman Pete Brungardt, a Salina Republican, called the link "speculation, adding the legislation infringes on the personal liberties of business owners and people who want to patronize their clubs and stores.

"This group came down on the notion that local communities can fend for themselves in this area," Brungardt said.

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The term "MODERATE REPUBLICAN" is a paradox when you have the FAR RIGHT WING RELIGIOUS RIGHT GOP on one extreme (MATT BARTLE (R) MISSOURI, LANCE KINZER (R) KANSAS and the TEA PARTY LIBERTARIAN GOP on the other extreme. Fortunately, there are some "MODERATES" left in the GOP, but they are often vilified as RINO'S (REPUBLICAN IN NAME ONLY) if they don't meet the "PURITY LITMUS TESTS" from either the religious right or Tea Party GOP extremists who are attempting to eliminate the "MODERATES" from their party.... Many Tea Party & religious right candidates are running against the MODERATES of their own party... Democrats have similar ideological differences as the GOP does but not to the extremes that the GOP does and is more "tolerant" of diversity & ideological/morality differences within their party than the GOP is. Neither party is on record as being STRIP CLUB FRIENDLY... Democrats just more tolerant and less vicious to the Strip Club industry than the far right-wingers from the GOP is in many cases.
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A good example of a MODERATE REPUBLICAN is Indiana Governor Mitch Damiels who is vilified by the extremist Tea Party GOP for his endorsement of Richard Lugar because he isn't "CONSERVATIVE" enough according to their rigid litmus test, and also despised by the Religious Right GOP for his call for a "truce" on social issues.... Unfortunately politicians like Daniels & Lugar maybe dying breeds in either party. They get MY VOTES though...
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LOL...you don't *have* any facts on your side gmd, but again...don't let that stop you from believing whatever you want to.
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Looks to me like I do, and I'll continue to believe what I can see with my own eyes and hear with my own ears, especially since you have still failed to refute them. Mostly because you can't, but like the vast majority of your type, won't or can't admit it, so cover it up with bluster and mockery. Coincidentally, just as you are doing here.
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Well Beaver Providence Rhode Island used to have stripclubs which were more like interactive brothels until the legislature in this ultra blue, liberal democrat state, egged on by women's groups changed everything and diluted the experience. Vermont ultra liberal - no contact. New Hampshire liberal - no contact. Massachusetts ultra liberal - contact only in less than 5% of the clubs. Florida - Republican - great contact. Yeah its the Republicans.
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@skibum609, yes there are "BLUE" areas that enact strict laws, just as there plenty of "RED" states... Neither party is particularly pro strip clubs... Anyone who believes the religious right GOP is not responsible for some of the strict laws is wrong, just as anyone who believes there are entities on the far left aren't responsible for some of the laws...
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I wish there was some kind of guide to strip club laws in different states / cities.
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Religious Right GOP Groups that are anti-strip club...I am certain there are some far left-wing groups that are anti strip club...just couldn't think of who they are...

American Family Association
American Life League
Center for Reclaiming America
Christian Coalition of America
Citizens for Community Values CCV
Concerned Women for America
Constitution Party
Eagle Forum
Faith and Action
Family Federation for World Peace and Unification
Family Research Council
Focus on the Family
Focus on the Family, State Family Policy Councils
Moral Majority Coalition
National Right to Life Committee
Priests for Life
Traditional Values Coalition
Vision America
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I failed to mention SCOTT BERGTHOLD aka COMMUNITY DEFENSE COUNSEL, attorney who represents many of the above groups and bilks taxpayers and judges into believing his usual bogus junk science. A few more legal organizations (from the RIGHT WING) that actively pursue unfavorable legislation to the strip club industry are.

Alliance Defence Fund
American Center for Law and Justice
Americans United for Life
Foundation for Moral Law
Home School Legal Defense Association
Liberty Counsel
Rutherford Institute
Thomas Moore Law Center
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From the Kansas Wichita Eagle
www.kansas.com/2011/03/27/1779522/opinion-line-extra-march-27.html
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"especially since you have still failed to refute them. Mostly because you can't"

Wow, learn to read my tiny-dicked friend. Your assertions have already been refuted my by original postings. Carry on none-the-less...ugh...
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"Well Beaver Providence Rhode Island used to have stripclubs which were more like interactive brothels until"

...the then GOP Governor, along with some help from some key "conservative" state legislators, the state's largest newspaper, and a very few (basically one) extreme "feminists" (for lack of a better word) all decided to get together to pass a law to solve a problem that basically didn't exist in the first place.

"Vermont ultra liberal - no contact."

VT only has 2 real strip clubs. One is in a "conservative" central part of the state (Barre, VT) where the local far Right-wing GOP mayor has made it his personal quest to clamp down on that club. Both that club & the other strip club (down in White River Jct., VT) have basically some one-way contact only (the Barre club has some limited two-way contact in the over-priced VIP area).

vermontsnarkyboy.blogspot.com/2007/02/mayor-titty-bar-how-lauzon-is-trying-to.html

"New Hampshire liberal - no contact."

LMAO! Trying actually living & voting in NH for a while...like I did for a few years. Hint: It's NOT a "liberal" state by any stretch of the imagination.

"Massachusetts ultra liberal - contact only in less than 5% of the clubs."

Baloney. Try visiting more than just ONE strip club in MA before you make a wild assertion like that. The contact is admitting limited to mostly one-way only at many MA strip clubs.

"Florida - Republican - great contact."

FL is a battleground state, moron. Read a newspaper sometime...ugh...

I'll say this again...BOTH of the extremes on the political Left & Right in the USA have it all wrong when it comes to regulating strip clubs, period.
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MisterGuy, You are mostly correct it's the EXTREMES from both the GOP-(Religious Right) and also Democrats that are the main culprits. I will give some examples

OHIO- STATEWIDE LAW- NO TOUCH LAW INITIATED BY A FAR RIGHT GOP GROUP CCV =REPUBLICAN
MISSIOURI-STATEWIDE LAW-NO TOUCH-NO BOOZE, NO NUDITY,- MATT BARTLE-REPUBLICAN
FLORIDA- COUNTY BY COUNTY...STRANGE STATE FROM DAYTONA BEACH-VERY STRICT ANTI STRIP CLUB LAWS...TO TAMPA & MIAMI...LIBERAL CLUBS...BATTLEGROUND POLITICALLY ALSO

WASHINGTON PARK ILLINOIS-DEMOCRAT SOME OF THE MOST "LIBERAL" STRIP CLUBS IN THE COUNTRY
CALIFORNIA-DEMOCRAT- CITY BY CITY LAWS... BUT OVERALL PRETTY "LIBERAL" STRIP CLUBS
DETROIT, MICHIGAN-DEMOCRAT, PASSED SOME STRICT ANTI STRIP CLUB LAWS, BUT GENERALLY NOT ENFORCED ON THE OUTSKIRTS LIKE IN INSKTER
MEMPHIS, TN-DEMOCRAT... AWW... THE OLE PLATINUM PLUS CAUSED CITY TO PASS AND ENFORCE STRICT LAWS
LOUISVILLE, KY-MOSTLY DEMOCRAT CONTROLLED AND THEY PASSED ANTI STRIP CLUB LAWS- NO TOUCH, NO BOOZE AND ITS BEING ENFORCED... GO TO LEXINGTON WHERE IT'S FULL NUDE, GOOD CONTACT AND FULL BAR...

IOWA- CITY BY CITY AND A BATTLEGROUND POLITICALLY SOME "LIBERAL" CLUBS IN DES MOINES & DAVENPORT WHILE CEDAR RAPIDS IS LAME
ARIZONA- CONSERVATIVE GOP STATE AND PRETTY CONSERVATIVE CLUBS TO MIDDLE OF ROAD
INDIANA- MODERATE TO CONSERVATIVE STATE, MIDDLE OF ROAD CLUBS
S. CAROLINA- CONSERVATIVE GOP STATE, FAIRLY LIBERAL CLUBS
NEVADA- DEMOCRAT STATE BUT BECOMING A BATTLEGROUND- "LIBERAL" CLUBS, WITH LEGAL BROTHELS ON THE OUTSKIRTS OF VEGAS
WISONSIN- BATTLEGROUND POLITICALLY AND MIDDLE OF ROAD CLUBS


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FYI, THE MAIN ATTORNEY RESPONSIBLE FOR REGULATING & LEGISLATING CLUBS OUT OF BUSINESS NATIONWIDE IS SCOTT BERGTHOLD www.adultbusinesslaw.com/www www.strengthenthefamily.net/regulate_sex_business.php

NEEDLESS TO SAY HE IS AFFILIATED WITH SEVERAL FAR RIGHT WING ULTRA CONSERVATIVE GROUPS

THIS GUY MAKES HIS LIVING DUPING CITIES AND STATES INTO BELIEVING HIS OFTEN "BOGUS NEGATIVE SECONDARY EFFECTS" STUDIES AT THE EXPENSE OF TAXPAYERS... HE WINS SOME AND LOSES SOME, BUT IT'S A DISTURBING TREND REGARDLESS....


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"Wow, learn to read my tiny-dicked friend. Your assertions have already been refuted my by original postings. Carry on none-the-less...ugh..."

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I don't think the important thing is the laws themselves, but how they are enforced. In my area, Detroit, virtually every strip club breaks many laws every day. If they all obeyed all the strip club rules on the books, they would all go out of business.
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