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Ejaculating During a Dance



I go commando with thin nylon pants. I've "came" many times with dancers and usually do a good job (i think) of hiding it until the dance is over with my shirt or asking them to shake in front of me or something. Anyway, is that odd? Do dancers notice it/ say anything about it? Also, I found myself feeling the urge to cum last night and I grabbed her off of me in an unsuspecting way because I don't think I think she would have noticed it this time. I was a little upset that i missed out. Just looking for your opinions on this matter. Thanks
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Not exactly sure what you are asking here. Popping a nut in your pants? Very Classy!
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I personally don't like to "lose it" in a club. The only time I had to ask a dancer to back off politely she said "that's what you're here for" and seemed surprised. I would think they are pretty used to it though I can't imagine they would be very happy to feel any of the result, so perhaps you should tell them.
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I've had long discussions with strippers on this topic. They expect men to cum, and usually right away. They're surprised when men don't. Since it takes me a long time to get there, I have to find alternative ways to enjoy myself with the gal. The only problem dancers have with men cumming is that they don't like to get their panties wet.
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Phonte, it depends on the club and the dancer. In some clubs it's standard practice, in others it will differ from girl to girl. Usually the fancier the club the less common it's likely to be. Similarly the less contact the club allows the less common it will be. In high contact low-class clubs (which is what most of us here seem to prefer) it's very common. But if you ask this question on the Pink site, they'll dump all over you for being a perv.
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Personally, I think the best strippers are the ones that mastered the art bringing you to peak but not pushing you over the edge. The last thing I want to do is do the brisk walk of shame out the door.

I think it's better for them because as they can get you to a certain point at the end of a song their chances of getting another one is pretty damn good.
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They have a vested interest in keeping you just on the edge, exactly where I like to be, but not for everyone I guess. My main point is to ask how I find this "Pink Site". Like a moth to a flame I'm unable to resist reading about how awful we are.
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Guys I am not understanding this post, or the responses for that matter. Are you actually saying some guys ejaculate in their pants? Ick. Don't you get cum all over your clothes? Why do you do that -- I don't get it? Perhaps it's because I am a slightly, ahem, more mature gentleman (i.e., past 40), but I don't think I would ever come close to orgasm by having a woman do a lap dance where I kept all my clothes on. Can you guys really cum that easily?

When I have an orgasm in the club, it is because I am engaging in some form of sexual activity -- a BJ or intercourse. And in that case, I am wearing a condom, for obvious reasons. So I am not cumming in my pants, thank god. Instead, I'm cumming in her mouth or in her pussy. And while I never thought of it this way before, I guess one of the added benefits of wearing a condom is that my cum stays in the condom and doesn't get on anyone's clothing. Again, ick.

It sounds like you guys are saying that instead of having sex, you are cumming by having the girl rub you through your clothes. To which I have a simple question: WTF?!?!? Why don't you just have sex like a normal person?

Help me out people I am really perplexed by this. Please don't tell me you are going to strip clubs so the girls can get you off through your clothing. I don't think I've cum that way since high school. Someone please throw me a bone (no pun intended).
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Njscfan: I can understand this (been there) and it often relates to club rules, how well you know the girl etc. In some clubs, they just won't tolerate taking it out of your pants. In other cases, the girl feels like she's not giving sex. I've only experienced it a few times and hell, I don't worry about the clothes. The earlier comment about taking you to the edge to make more $$ is valid. I've had some tape me out, follow me to the ATM and when they think you're broke, pop a load. It's the game.
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Very ironic topic for me as I have an interesting very recent personal perspective on this. First let me say that I agree with njscfan, I have never considered ejaculating during a lap dance. Let me remind you however that I have only recently re-discovered the joys of clubbing and I am still learning how to handle certain situations in clubs which is why I appreciate this web site. Last weekend I had a killer clubbing weekend on a solo basketball vacation in KC. I had 22 dances by 9 dancers in 3 clubs in a span of about 30 hours. Probably nothing special for some of the old pros on this site but for me it was a record. Anyway, back to the topic. After 9 incredible laps by 3 beautiful ladies at one club that only allowed 1-way contact I moved on to a club that was known more for 2-way contact and possible extras. I was wearing a thin soft pair of slacks and went to the bathroom and situated my cock and balls where they were outside of my underware and when I took a dancer to the semi-private dance area she started touching my package and asked if I was commando or if I was out of my underware. She continued to touch and after the first dance we moved to the darkest corner of the lap area where she started stroking me and putting my cock in her mouth, the whole time thru my pants. I got to that magical point of decision making where I could have stopped her and stopped myself from what was about to happen but decided WTF and warned her that I was about to cum. That actually made her smile and stroke a little faster until we completed the experience. She was actually happy with the result and the tip tip she received. Now I had a problem that I had never experienced before. I had a wet spot the size of a frisbee on the front of my light colored pants (ick) and I left the club (in daylight) pulling my shirt down as far as I could over the spot and had to change clothes in my vehicle. A good buddy of mine who is very experienced at this stuff said I simply should have asked if I could bring it out in the open before cuming to avoid soiling my clothes but it all happened so fast that again I just said WTF. This is the first time I have ever cum in a SC and I learned an important lesson. Again, I would never try to ejaculate during a dance but this went further than I had expected it to go and in a moment of weakness I (as mikeybush put it above) had to do a brisk walk of shame out the door.
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Please do not take this as a criticism, but I cannot understand why the one and only time you came in a club is in your pants. That's just not right. You should be having sex, not a form of glorified masturbation that doesn't even rise to the level of a handjob. We all moved past this when we were in high school, yes? If this makes me unusual I guess I will just have to live with being unusual, but I am not cumming in my pants. Ever.

If the club won't let you have sex, then I would not remain in that club. I am willing to give a new place a try for a little bit (maybe 30 minutes or so max), but if it's not producing any mileage, forget it. 22 lapdances -- that's $440 minimum where I come from -- for nothing more than soiling my pants? Why? For $440 I better be having sex. And yes, that's going to require pulling down my pants. Honestly for $440 you can hire a very nice escort who will meet you in a hotel room and spend an hour or more with you boning in every possible way. I am not going to pick on someone who pays for sex, but I think it is ridiculous to pay for nothing. Don't you want to have sex with these girls? Then why don't you?

Sex is not available at every club, obviously, but you can usually figure out pretty quickly which ones provide it and which ones don't -- if not from a site like this, then certainly with a visit. Again, I think the picture is usually crystal clear within 30 minutes of arrival. Within a few minutes you'll be asked for a dance, and in the first couple dances you can find out what the dancers think the club rules are. If sex is banned, then leave (unless all you want is to look at girls dancing in their underwear).

If sex is available at the club, I think it is silly to suggest you need to get to know the girl well. You only need to know if she is providing extras for sale, or not. If so, the only thing she's going to want to know about you is whether you can pay the freight. When I have had sex with the girls in the clubs (which is most of the time, since I avoid clubs where it is banned), it has happened within 5 minutes of meeting the right girl. It is just a question of finding the right girl at the right club -- once you've found each other, there's no need for a lengthy courtship.

This thing about getting drained of cash at the ATM is especially weird to me. If the club is such a ripoff, then leave. Go to an escort or at least an AMP and just have sex. It won't cost any more and it will be way more satisfying. If you keep blowing your wad in your pants, apart from the laundry bills, you are going to render yourself sexually dysfunctional, because when you finally do have sex, you'll be a premature ejaculator.

All together now: Stop cumming in your pants! Start having sex!
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njscfan - Thanks for the SC 101 lesson. Maybe I was not clear enough in my message. I was trying to poke light hearted fun at myself and at just how naive I am. If I had it to do over again, I certainly would do it differently. I apologize that I am not an experienced STUD like you but I am learning and the next time I am in a situation where sex is available I promise that I will do better and I will strive to be the man that you appaer to be. I will NOT however apologize for having 22 laps and no sex. I had an absolutely GREAT time with these ladies and the memories will last for a long time. You must understand that, unfortunately, in my part of the country there are not many (any that I have been in) clubs with completely private VIP areas let alone extras, hell there are many clubs where all you get is an air dance and others where the lap dancers cannot even remove their tops. BTW, about half of those 22 dances were at a place where they only cost $ 10.00. In summary I agree to join your chant: Stop cumming in your pants! Start having sex!
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It's funny, because I never thought of my adopted home state of NJ as being a great place for sex. There are a lot of SCs here, but most of them are pretty crummy. Still, out of the 125 listed on TUSCL, it is possible to find at least a half dozen within driving distance that provide sex. It sounds like the strip club situation in your part of the country is even worse, and for that you have my sympathy. I know you are being sarcastic, but I also know you know I am able to have sex in strip clubs not because I am a "stud" but because I have $$$.

Having said that, I strongly suspect even in your region you will be able to find decent escorts. I would suggest looking at TER, which has one of the best search engines you will ever find. If you are going to spend $440, even in the NYC area, you could get a 2 hour session with a very very attractive escort that would include every sex act imaginable, with the possible exception of greek (there it will depend on the escort). Frankly, I suspect prices are lower where you live, so for that kind of money you could get a session that would be really memorable. In the friendliest way possible, I am suggesting that that would be a much more satisfying experience.

Maybe we are just in a different place in life, but there was a thread about this a short while ago (why go to strip clubs), and I fell firmly into the "I do it for sex" camp. If the girls in the clubs stopped providing sex, I would stop going.
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njscfan: I just wanted to let you know you are not alone. I too have never come close to an orgasm while getting a lap dance and I am fine with that. Even when I was younger, I was never close. Not that I am a marathon man or anything, but it seems if one is having an orgasm from just a little rubbing through a layer or two of clothing, they must have an awfully short fuse. Not that I haven't had an orgasm in a SC, but it's only been with a little more hands-on contact.

And I think it all depends on the club. For those that say that most dancers expect it to happen, I would disagree. I too have talked about this with my ATF and it is pretty infrequent in her club. I have known her for a long time and she is pretty honest with me and she says it has only happed to her twice in her 8 years of dancing. Both from guys who apparently had zero control and lost it immediately.
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Some clubs you could come unless your brought your own hooker in with you. AT other clubs , including many where zippers stay zipped, the girls are pretty good at getting you off. Here's advice: If you don't want to finish, tell the girl to back off for a little while. They are happy to keep you there. If you'd like to come, make a little motion and no one will be surprised.

As for the mess, here's what I do. Sit in the club, look around, till I'm feeling a little firm. Go to restroom, roll on a raincoat. Go get some dances. AFterward, return to restroom to remove the raincoat. I've had the experience of getting in the car and shoving paper towels down my pants, then the next day dropping my suit off at the dry cleaners, hoping my wife didn't smell it in the closet. Oh, and walking into my fancy hotel holding a jacket in front of me. No fun. Wear a rubber.
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This thread is funny..........and sticky.
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Yes, this is a sticky subject. Just goes to show what a diverse crowd we have here, with different expectations for what constitutes a great SC experience. As for me, I look for high mileage in whatever form is available in whatever locale I happen to be in. WHat that means is:
- In Phoenix, I get it from my GF. But in the SC's, there is no chance of real sex, and very little chance of whipping it out. The only way to cum is in your pants, covered or not.
- In NJ, go to a dive tittie bar, meet a girl, tell her what you want. High probability of success.
- In Tijuana....

I do agree with njscfan about the SC versus escort bang-for-the-buck comparison. As many of us know, our little brain is an impulse buyer and a poor money manager.

The pledge to have more sex is a good one.
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NJ rocks....lol
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njscfan: I am too old to care about what other people think. I usually wear black shorts and in the darkness of the club a wet spot is hardly noticeable. What is more noticeable is my dick pushing against my shorts. Again I don't care. "look at me guys. I got a better dance than you!" I don't take condoms into a club. I don't plan to use them there. That is for my hotel room. I don't understand how a guy can go into the mens room and slip a condom on a limp dick. In the last 12 months I did the BIG nasty ITC 3 times with 2 different dancers. My strip club buddies know who they are. They raped me. I didn't ask for it and could not stop it and did not pay extra for it. What? Me worry?
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OTC is so much better than ITC! I have had messy shorts experiences ITC thru the shorts as well as under the shorts. The quantity of my ejaculate is reduced due to a medication I take. I will wear dark colored shorts to the club so the wet spot is not noticeable. Afterwards I will go to the bathroom for cleanup or head for home. BTW my dick has slipped into a pussy ITC 2 times & my dick has been in a dancer's mouth ITC 3 times. NJ sounds like the place to be if you have $$$!
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"Why don't you just have sex like a normal person?"

Look, I agree that the idea of cumming in my pants is not entirely the best option that I can think of, and I don't think that's ever even happened to me. But, obviously not everyone that goes to a strip club is looking for sex or even comfortable with the idea of having sex with a complete stranger (either in or out of a club). I have no problem going to a club and just looking at and interacting with naked or nearly naked women that happen to be attractive to me. I'm not going to spend a ton of money doing it though, and I can't fully understand the cumming in the pants vibe & why it might be satisfying to people...but to each his own I think.

The idea that someone has been going to strip clubs for a long time and hasn't even heard of guys cumming in their pants during a LD is just silly to me. NJ sucks...Canada and RI rule...it's all legal there baby...there are other places too...
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Nj doesnt suck :(
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Dear MisterGuy

With regard to the original thread, no, I actually had no idea guys were cumming in their pants at strip clubs. The thought never occurred to me. I guess you guys are doing a pretty good job of hiding those wet spots on your nylon shorts. Kudos. Obviously, you're right, not everyone goes to clubs to have sex (some of the people on this site cannot have sex, sadly). But the guys who are cumming in their pants obviously want "something," and personally I am finding it difficult to understand why they don't get the real thing. Being a heterosexual guy, when I see a goodlooking nearly naked woman, my first thought is "I'd like to have sex with her." My first thought is not, "I'd like to bust a nut in my underwear." But as you say, different strokes for different folks (sorry for the pun).

But then, alas, you have to go and attack my adopted home state of New Jersey, a state that can proudly boast of Bruce Springsteen, Frank Sinatra and an ex-Governor who had three way sex with his wife and an aide (read today's paper). NJ sucks and Canada and RI rule, you say? Well, I've never been to SCs in Canada or RI, but you have, so let's look at your reviews (all quotes are your words; everything else is a fair summation of your words):

Satin Dolls (RI) -- the dancers wouldn't even talk to you

Chez Paree (Canada) -- "notoriously low contact"; no prolonged interaction

Super Sexe (Canada) -- "notoriously low contact"; you never got a dance

Gentleman's Choice (Canada) -- you didn't get a dance

Balloons (RI) -- $300 for 2 lapdances where you couldn't even touch the girls' breasts and you got a "dry HJ"

Studio 253 (RI) -- "self-service" only

Mickey's Valley View Pub (RI) -- you will "never find any extras at this place"

Desire (RI) -- $125 for a 15 minute dance and you got to touch the girl's pussy

Cadillac (RI) -- 1 dance; grinding only

Club L'Entre Neus (Canada) -- you gave this a "2" rating; the dancers are all "old" and "ugly"

Cheaters (RI) -- you did not get a dance

Les Belles De Nuit (Canada) -- you gave this a "1" rating; the dancers were "old, fat and homely"; extras were "not allowed"

Bar Le Gentleman (Canada) -- one of the few places you really liked; you said FS was $200; unclear if you partook

Desire (RI) -- you could rub your face on the dancer's breasts; you did not get a lapdance

Club Fantasies (RI) -- $130 in the VIP room could get you "full touching"

Satin Dolls (RI) -- you got 2 dances with "grinding" and you got to "peek inside their thongs"; but there were no extras

Sportsman Inn (RI) -- you gave this place a "1"; you said one girl flashed her breasts and her "box" at you

Chez Diane (Canada) -- this is another place you liked, but again it was not 100% clear what you got here. Your review said the lap dances were "full contact!" which suggests they were not "full service".

Bar Le Gentlemen (Canada) -- you say FS is available for $200, but it's unclear if you actually tried it

Club 35-10 (Canada) -- you were offered to lick a girl's nipples for $20 (you turned this offer down)

Club Downtown (Canada) -- another place you liked, but again it's unclear what is on the menu, if anything

Club Wandas (Canada) -- "NO CONTACT" dances

Club Super Contact (Canada) -- some contact is available here

Le Chateau due Sexe (Canada) -- the "contact" here does not include touching the pussy, which is prohibited

Cabaret Sex Appeal (Canada) -- same; you can't even touch the pussy

Hill Top (RI) -- FS is supposedly available (as usual, one can't tell if you actually tried it); during lapdances you can't touch the pussy

According to your own blog, in Montreal the strip clubs "won't tolerate" extras anymore.

Honestly, my friend, but the mileage appears to be pretty low in RI and Canada according to your reviews. Touching a girl's breasts or pussy don't count as "extras" in my book; that's called foreplay.

Dude, come on down to Jersey. Wondergrl and I will give you a tour of the high mileage clubs. And I promise you won't have to cum in your pants.

Your friend

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The only clubs I've ever been to where sex was available were so seedy and the girls so ugly that I had no interest in the places. The clubs I've spent most of my time in didn't provide enough privacy where ITC sex was an option. In other words, that's not why I go to clubs. If that's what I was looking for I'd hire an excort because it sounds like it's usually cheaper. So the only possible choices involved keeping pants on and fully zipped, which was always fine with me. Sex with strangers has never interested me, inside or outside of a club. But flirting and playing with a pretty girl sometimes does. If that makes me weird, so be it. I frankly think I'm more like the typical strip club customer than are those of you who go looking for sex in clubs.
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When i get a lap dance, i usually by them 5 a time, 20 bucks a pop. i always tell the girl theres an extra 50 if she's good enough to make me cum. Thing is, a tight ass rubbing up on me for five songs isnt enough to make me cum. Most times the girl will be a bit tired from trying to earn the extra 50, i have no problem letting them earn the extra $ another way.
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Like I said before...I've never cum in my pants in a strip club...lol... Honesty, njscfan, I suspect that you're just trying to stir the pot here, which is fine by me since I've done that before too. :)

Now let's *really* stack up the details...

RI:
Satin Doll - I've had plenty of LDs here, and they were all two-way contact. They even have a newer room here now where it appears that anything goes.
Balloons - it's on wondergrl's ROB listing I believe...courtesy of me. Although, the no breast touch issue was in the LD area, not the VIP area.
Desire - way more mileage can definitely be had here than I got.
Cheaters - this place is *hugely* notorious for high mileage...you just have to find someone that tickles your fancy is all...read a few more reviews of the place.
Club Fantasies - certain extras (usually short of FS) are common here with plenty of dancers.

That says nothing of all the AMPs in RI that provide a full range of "extra" activity...depending on where you go.

Canada:
Bar Le Gentleman - this is a FS strip club...anything goes.
Chez Diane - another FS strip club...anything goes.
Hill Top - yet another FS strip club...anything goes, even Greek.

It is indeed very hard to find any "extras" in downtown Montreal strip clubs anymore, which is why you should try the escort scene there instead.

For you, it's obviously all about the sex, which is fine...but I think that you really come off like an ass when you look down your nose at other people who might not be all about the sex. I can testify that is possible to have fun during a session with a dancer...either having sex with her or not.

Why don't you actually try out a few clubs in Canada and/or RI, where everything that you would want to do in a club is LEGAL? No need to worry about embarrasing yourself or going to jail...ever... NJ sucks...for many, many other reasons besides the very odd strip club scene down there IMO.
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Well I won't continue to defend the honor of my sadly maligned adopted home state, except to note that the odds of getting mileage here appear to be better than MisterGuy reports on his Canada/RI reviews. I like Canada, by the way, especially Montreal. For all I know, Rhode Island is a lovely place too. I won't tell you that your home state "sucks." My invitation to club together stands, even if you do keep saying "NJ sucks." No hard feelings on my part. And if I am ever in your area without my wife, I'll look you up and we'll go clubbing together. You can take me to your best clubs. I'll have sex, and you'll enjoy chatting with the girls at the bar.

I do not begrudge anyone who does not want to have sex in the clubs. That's not my approach, obviously, but it does not bother me if someone prefers to spend their money just so that a young girl will talk to him.

But THIS thread (as the topic title indicates) is actually about cumming in your pants, for chrissake. The guys who are doing that are obviously looking for more than "friendship" or socializing -- they want to get their nut off. And from all the posts on this site, that is obviously not an accidental or incidental occurrence. You have guys putting on nylon shorts in the dead of winter; pulling their dicks out of their underwear; sticking paper towels down their pants; and going thru all sorts of elaborate measures so they can drop a load in their pants. It is this particular behavior that I am struggling hard to understand.

I feel genuine sympathy for someone who feels that is their only option. As a man myself, I feel bad seeing my fellow men engaging in behavior that must feel at least a little degrading, at least some of the time. Even some of the posters on this thread have talked about feeling "shame." So I feel bad for them, but I do not understand why they do it.

I guess the response is that cumming in your pants is the only thing available in some parts of the country. If true, respectfully, I would urge the cum-in-your-pants-crowd (to be distinguished from the no-sex-in-the-club-crowd) to go on strike. You obviously want sex if you are cumming in your pants. So insist on it. If the club bans it, stop going. I bet they will re-think their business strategy if they lose customers.

Meanwhile, why not save your time and money for real sex, either with a civilian or an escort? No matter where you live there must be some girls who are willing to fuck. But I would not let someone manipulate me into paying $$$$ for the pleasure of soiling myself. Cumming in your pants is not a substitute for sex.

Related to this, by the way (a topic for a completely different thread, I guess) is how many guys in clubs are just really awkward and uncomfortable around women, and so use strip clubs as a substitute for a regular romantic life. I have been getting sad stories about guys who are paying money for the most meager rewards -- a little feel of the boobs, a goodnight kiss with an ATF after dinner, etc. Again, I don't blame any girl for making a living the best way she can in this cruel world, but I feel pretty lousy for the guys if they are being used like that. If this represents a significant portion of the club going population, then that would go a long way to explaining why some guys are putting up with what otherwise should be obviously manipulative bullshit. I would urge those guys to stand up for themselves. You are entitled to a rich and full sex life, not a crummy substitute for one.
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I heard all of that when I was in High School, 50 years ago. Some things never change!
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Like I've said before in another thread njscfan, if you're looking to live vicariously through my strip clubs reviews, you're going to be disappointed. I don't write reviews to give you the blow by blow (pun intended) of how some dancer went down on me or fucked my brains out or whatever. I write reviews in hopes that maybe I can maybe help someone that's never been to the places that I've been...maybe steer them away from a bad club or more towards a club that might be worth their time. Information is power, and some things are in the eye of beholder. I also don't write reviews every-single-time that I visit a strip club in particular...because it's not about needlessly bumping up my review number for some supposed bragging rights.

If you can't get laid in a FS Canadian strip club, you either can't get laid anywhere or you don't want to get laid, period. I won't be looking for you...so don't look for me. You can send your wife though...just kidding... ;)

If you ever figure out what's going thru the minds of the "drop a load in their pants" crowd, you let us know...I don't have a clue about that either...maybe some people like the "shame" of it...who knows...
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Yes, I understand completely your approach to reviews. So when you wrote in your last review (and I quote):

"There were a fair amount of girls . . . but not one dancer came up to say
anything to me...even when I tipped at the railing! . . . It looked like
there might have been a fair amount of "activity" going on from what I
could see under the drapes though."

This was really code language for what you meant to say, which was:

"As soon as I walked in I was mobbed by about 5 girls, all 10s, ranging in
age from 18 to 19 years old. They tore off my clothes and raped me on the
spot."

Thanks for the clarification. And you're right, I'm not in your league. Guess I'll just have to keep clubbing in the seedy environs of Joisey. Sniff.
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I think some of you guys are being way too critical without giving any weight to the type of club available in a particular area. I'm sure most of us on this site that are looking for extras would much prefer to have real contact with the girls but will accept a "cum in the pants" experience if that is all that is available in the area. In many of the clubs the lap dances are given in the open area and any uncovered(without pants) activity is almost unavailable. Even a highly rated and full contact club like Mons Venus would make "cum in the pants" ejaculation as the only only available option. While many guys going to the "Mons" are content to view the high energy strip club experience offered there I suspect more than a few of the patrons leave with a spot on their pants. I have had that happen there with the right girl and frankly see nothing wrong or degrading about it. If more were offered and private rooms were available then something a little more intimate would certainly be preferred. Same goes for Atlanta clubs where,excluding very expensive VIP room, you are probably lucky to get anything more than an air dance on the main floor so any contact would be a bonus and there is virtually no way to do ANYTHING outside the pants in that environment. So I would urge those of you who are so quick to criticize other members of this site to first consider that their options may not be the same as yours . Fortunately for me, I travel all the time so I can find good high milage clubs that allow a wide range of uncovered activity and don't have to patronize my local Atlanta clubs.
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Ok, I hear what you're saying, but I am genuinely curious. If you live in or near Atlanta, there are a lot of great escorts there, some of the best in the country. (Plus there are a lot of great looking girls in Atlanta, but that's another story.) So even if the best clubs in Atlanta prohibit sex in the clubs (I'm taking your word on that), why not just get an escort? Wouldn't that be more satisfying to you?
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NJ, to be perfectly honest with you I have not set foot in an Atlanta club in quite some time but based on my previous experience and from other reviews on this site I feel comfortable with my assessment of Atlanta clubs. As far as the escort thing goes I am not opposed to it but have been satisfied with the strip club activity that I have found while traveling. I guess we each have our own pleasure zone and tend to stick with it. If I get up to NJ anytime soon I will look up some of your preferred venues.
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LOL...yup, it was a bad time to be had by me at the Satin Doll in RI the last time around...unlike the first time that I ever went there. I don't think I've ever seen a 10 there though, and the girls were mostly hanging out with regs on that nite recently I suspect...it happens. I don't speak in code BTW. The point is that you'd have a waaaay better time there than at the Sportman's Inn around the corner, as my reviews have indicated, but to each his own. Enjoy flaunting the law njscfan...don't get caught pulling a Spitzer though. I'm the one that's not in your "league", and I have no interest in it...lol...

Well said snowtime...I still don't like the "cum in the pants" option though.
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Saw a review today for a club in New Jersey named "Volcanic Eruptions".....seemed relevant to this topic
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ok slightly new take here. I dont go to SC intending to cum in my pants; but it has happened-3 times in 30 years of clubbing I guess. Actually, it was only twice. The third, my pants were open. Both times in my pants, it actually surprised me. And, both times I warned the girl and got a surprised "don't you want to?" I like being on edge and thats what a good club experience gives me. I dont get up just watching anymore, but a good grind gets me there. For that reason I often wear light weight pants and go commando, although usually not at a new club. A few months ago I got "no underwear?" when tipping at the rail, and then "just the way I like private dances" Thats the one where I wasnt in my pants. I'm a little jealous of NJguy since even the LV and florida clubs I go to dont have the options he seems to suggest are around the corner at his clubs.
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Njscfan, your posts really surprise me. I've been to many NJ clubs over the years, although not recently, and my experience was always that aside from a few clubs in the Philly metro area, most NJ clubs were very low contact. Have things really changed that much or are you shitting us? You're the only person I've ever heard rave about clubs in NJ, most people think they're terrible. What am I missing?
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Define "terrible." There are a number of clubs in NJ that are pretty seedy (I think that's your word, actually), and you would not want to go to them for a "gentlemen's club" experience. But the sex is still available. The "nicer" clubs (fancier decor, classier patrons, more upper class) frequently have pretty low mileage, at least the ones I've been to. And it takes some effort to separate the wheat from the chaff. There are a lot of clubs in NJ given the size of the state, but many of them are rip offs of one form or another. And things do change, so a visit one day may be different than a visit the next. I went to one club where I had sex in the VIP room a month ago, and there was an actual cop just sitting there in the club, in full uniform. Don't know what that was all about, but I guess it would impact mileage a little bit. But, no, I am not shitting you. As I recall you have lived in the WDC area, correct? The best thing I can compare it to is some of the places that existed when I last lived in DC, which was in the 80s when Marion Barry was mayor. Then there were some pretty slimy places on 14th street, and one I remember in particular a little north of Dupont Circle (I think it was called the Eldorado or something like that). Skanky, but the sex was available. The Eldorado (if that was its name) had an actual brothel attached to it. I remember one of the places on 14th street had the girls dancing in the windows facing the sidewalk, sort of one display. I do not suggest NJ is like that. Sex in the reign of Mayor Barry was pretty open and out there. Today in NJ, it has to be covert because of LE concerns. But it is still there. My experience is not unique; the places I found I found in part due to the reviews on tuscl, which do indicate where miileage can be found.
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I always take it out and cum. A few girls say, "You can't do that here." But when they see it, they like it.
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For NJSCFan:

Guys I am not understanding this post, or the responses for that matter. Are you actually saying some guys have sex in the club? Ick. Don't you get cum all over your dancer? Why do you do that -- I don't get it? Perhaps it's because I am a slightly, ahem, more mature gentleman (i.e., past 40), but I don't think I would ever come close to orgasm by having a woman blow me in a public setting where I kept all my clothes on. Can you guys really cum that easily?

When I have an orgasm in the club, it is because I am engaging in consecutive lap dances. And in that case, I am not wearing a condom, for obvious reasons. So I am not cumming in her mouth, thank god. Instead, I'm cumming in my pants. And while I never thought of it this way before, I guess one of the added benefits of not wearing a condom is that my cum can spew freely instead of in a gross condom that needs to be disposed of. Again, ick.

It sounds like you guys are saying that instead of cumming by having the girl rub you through your clothes, you are having sex. To which I have a simple question: WTF?!?!? Why don't you just cum in your pants like a normal person?

Help me out people I am really perplexed by this. Please don't tell me you are going to strip clubs so the girls can get you off through illegal acts. Clubbing for old guys is like pretending your in high school. Someone please throw me a bone (no pun intended).
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LOL
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Raincoat, that is funny!
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Njscfan, I've spent many years clubbing in and around Washington, DC, and except fot the all-black clubs, I have been to every club in the metropolitan area that has existed in the last 40 years, including the Royal Palace (which you call the Eldorado.) And I've been personal friends with several girls including my ATF who worked in many of these clubs. And I've never ever seen or heard about any sexual acts being available at any of these clubs. The clubs inside the city limits are all no-touch clubs and always have been, as are the ones in northern Virginia. The only touching you will find is in the Maryland clubs, and except for Baltimore, none of them have any sort of private rooms and touching is pretty limited. Either your memory or your honesty is seriously challenged.
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I have not lived in Washington, D.C. since 1987, so I cannot account for what the situation is like there today (or for that matter, what the situation has been like for the last 20 years). However, I can account for what the situation was like in the mid-1980s, because I lived there and went to clubs. You are just mistaken. Sex flowed rather freely in D.C. in the mid-80s, not just in the clubs but in the streets -- streetwalkers were common in the heart of downtown D.C., and it was not only possible to take them to a hotel, but it was also possible to have sex with them in rather more public venues, and I did so. Whatever the name of the club you and I are both referring to, sex was quite readily available there. In fact, the club had annexed to it a brothel, with private rooms (and jacuzzis no less). It was possible to take a dancer up to the brothel; I know so because I did so.

Rather than attack you personally (even though you have basically just called me a liar, twice now), I will simply point out to you that it is possible I am having different experiences in the clubs than you are. I think you might consider the possibility that your experience is not the same as that of every other man. You believe, for example, that you know I am lying about the sex available in clubs in NJ, even though you have never lived in NJ (and even though there are some 125 clubs listed in NJ just for tuscl alone). But somehow you know what is happening on every night in every club in the entire state. You also believe this even though there are other reviews on this very site by other patrons stating they had sex in the same clubs; I guess they're lying too. You also believe that you know what happened to every patron in every club on every night in Washington, D.C. over 20 years ago -- and that absolutely no one's experience could be any different than your experience. I think merely to state the proposition reveals how arrogant the underlying conceit is. Just because you're not having sex does not mean that no one else is.

As for your ATF, I believe you have described her as being in her 20s or 30s, so I think that would disqualify her from having any knowledge about what was or was not happening in the clubs in the mid-1980s, since she would not have been an adult at the time. Like I said, I am biting my tongue in this response, so I won't comment further about your repeated references to your ATF. But it takes a certain amount of hubris to think that because you know some dancers you therefore know what has happened to every patron in every club over a period of years. Honestly, has it ever occurred to you that perhaps -- just perhaps -- the dancers you think are your "friends" (but to whom you have to give $$$ so they will spend time with you) are actually just telling you what they think you want to hear? Did it ever occur to you that a girl you pay money to in a strip club just might not be telling you about everything she does with other customers?

It seems you take especial offense at people who use the clubs as a venue for sex. You have, in various posts, suggested that it is only possible in "seedy" environs, that there is something wrong with having sex with "strangers," and of course that anyone who claims to be having sex (when you're not) must be lying. I think it is odd that on a site like this of all places we would find people who are judgmental about having sex with strippers. Personally I would not use a strip club as a social life, and would not delude myself into thinking that I am "friends" with people who use me as an ATM. But it doesn't bother me if that's the satisfaction some guys get out of going to clubs; life can be lonely, after all, and who am I to judge someone who needs companionship, however procured. By the same token, I don't see why you are judgmental about guys who like to have sex with lots of different girls, and who use strip clubs as a convenient venue for achieving that goal.
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FONDL: I respect my elder and you know that we have shared some intimate information in Emails but I have to go along with Njscfan. Your interests are different than mine and I don't hold that against you. Be yourself and don't stop posting.
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To get back to the original issue, I think like many things the answer lies in history. When lap dancing first began, it was the first time that intimate physical contact became a routine part of the typical strip club experience. And in some of the wilder LD factories sticky pants quickly became a common and expected part of the experience. And it still is in some clubs that feature high contact LDs and nothing more. So the guys who participate in that sort of activity are continuing a historical precedent. I see no reason for others to criticize that. Among other things, it's much safer than having sex.

I don't care what other guys do in clubs but I do get annoyed when others criticize those of us who prefer to keep things legal. I'll point out one more time the obvious - illegal activities in clubs provide easy ammunition to those in our society who would like to see strip clubs put out of business.
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Interesting topic.

Personally, lap dances have never pushed me over the edge before. They've been enjoyable, but it just hasn't been enough.

That however doesn't mean that I have experienced this topic from both perspectives.

I went to a club in a nearby city -- one that is well known for extras -- and maybe I was naive or maybe I just didn't think about it but as I was getting some oral satisfaction, the dancer would periodically stop what she was doing to make sure Big Brother outside wasn't looking in. Well, she stopped one time just as I was at the edge, and since you can't stop nature, it caused quite a mess in my shorts.

I planned ahead after that in this club and if the dancer wouldn't allow CIM, then I would have a napkin or towel to clean up. This eliminated the problem.

I went to another club and got a dance from a girl that was known for giving HJ and BJ in the private dance area. Sure enough, she pulled it right out and started to go to work. When the time came (sic), she caught it all in her hand and I have no idea what she did with it after that.

I've never had that kind of experience at the best club near my house, even though the girls are notorious for giving some serious stick-shifting during the dances. The streak ended awhile back when I met a new dancer who told me I was too serious. I jokingly told her it was her job to make me happy. When we went into the dance area, she whispered in my ear that she was really going to make me happy, proceeding to continually rub ole junior throughout the entire dance. When I realized that I was about to cum, I told her to back off but she broke into a huge smile and tugged all the harder.

A week later at the same club, I half-jokingly told another favorite dancer that the problem with this club was that the girls could never finish the deal (because of the openness of the private area). Now she had danced for me at least a dozen times before but for the first time, she seem challenged and told me that if I wanted to drop a nut, she would make sure it happened. I stopped her because I didn't want a mess but ever since, I don't go in the place without a cover (it has come in handy a number of times, including the one and only time one of the girls told me that she was feeling horny and and agreed to get me off if I got her first. After a good fingering, she quite conspicuously pulled me out and screwed my brains out just 10 feet from a bouncer and a half dozen other dancers - it was a great experience).

Bottom line: I prefer to avoid the mess but some times, it is unavoidable.
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I won't revisit the reasons why I don't cum in my pants. But the idea that this is about "keeping it legal" is silly.

First, it is not legal to be masturbated in exchange for money. In pretty much every jurisdiction, prostitution is paying for "sexual acts." Sexual acts, in turn, are very broadly defined, and almost always include masturbation. So, if you pay a girl to masturbate you -- even if it is through your pants -- it is prostitution, and you have violated the law. That's why it is just as illegal to get a handjob at an AMP as it is to get a blowjob. You do not need to have skin to skin contact. Nor does it matter whether you climax or not, by the way. I repeat: if you pay a girl to masturbate you, then you have violated your state's prohibition against prostitution. Thus, the cum-in-the-pants people (or even the rub-the-dick-through-the-pants people) are just as in violation of the law as the old fashioned let's-have-sex crowd. The only way to keep it legal in the club is to avoid all sexual activity, whether your dick is out or not. If FONDL just watches, then he's legal. But as soon as someone fondles FONDL's dick, then he has violated the law, same as when the girl who road Cleveland Tom's Johnson.

But more importantly, FONDL's argument is disingenuous. We all know perfectly well that people are not cumming in their pants because of a legal analysis. They are doing it because they feel it is the best they can get, for whatever reason. No one on this site who is busting a nut in his shorts would turn down a handjob, blowjob or full service if it were offered.
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I think he might be shitting us sometimes FONDL, but who really cares? One of the things that I like about going to high mileage clubs in areas where "extra" things are tolerated and/or legal is that there isn't the notion in the back of your mind of "what if someone catches us?" going on during "the deed". It's just easier for everyone that way I think. What we need to remember is that not every state or nearby country has made prostitution illegal, period. It also doesn't sound like Mr. know-it-all njscfan has quite wrapped his mind around the "cum in your pants crowd", but again, who cares (since neither have I)?
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Yes, masturbation for money is still prostitution. However, if we go into a legal business establishment to enjoy the art of exotic dance and keep our dicks in our pants we maintain plausible deniability. It would be difficult to deny that you paid for sex when caught with your dick stuffed in a dancer's mouth.
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OK, enough already. Bottom line, how many (who actually can cum during a lap dance) wear a condom? How many just cum in their clothes and try to hide it?
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"Bottom line, how many (who actually can cum during a lap dance)....."


When we are talking about cumming during a lap dance, are we talking about an actual lap dance or are we talking extras: HJ, BJ, FS, etc... Beacause of all the hundreds (or thousands ??) of dances I have had, I have never, ever been close to cumming. I would be shocked if guys actually can cum from just some dry rubbing.

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david120. I haven't either but I have come damn close 6 or 7 times. In each case the dancer was a nine or better with a body that wouldn't quit. And a personality to match. The DFK was also helping. I had to stop them so that I could spend more time at the club. I don't like an early finish to a strip club visit.
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I am not ENTIRELY shocked that guys can cum strictly from "dry humping," because I'm sure there are some people who prepare properly. Appropriately loose-fitting clothing, silky or otherwise smooth underclothing, and perhaps a loose-fitting condom which is lubricated on the inside ...
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Finding this discussion absolutely hilarious. Friction dances bring patrons to orgasm all the time. Wearing a condom underneath (if one can do so - not all cock shapes can manage the limp sheathing beforehand) makes it possible to have a complete sex act, clothed, for the price of a lapdance, with no stain, no risk to the dancer.
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Ditto CR2 above,I'm astonished by the diversity of opinions here. I always thought the whole point of a LD was getting off and to hell with suiting up with the raincoat-who needs it-it's just a little creamy love-juice. Any dancer worth her salt INTENDS to get you off, unless she knows you're just in it for the long drawn out tease-in which case you deserve everything you DON'T get.
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What do the girls in Plattsburgh, NY think of those kind of antics CR2?
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Thank you Ralphyboy. You're one of the few that understand our sport. Of course we all know from the pink site that there are plenty of dancers that think its yukky. They are the ones that should be working at Hooter's instead.
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Had an interesting one pop up the other night. Went to a local club and saw one of may faves who takes great pleasure in getting guys off. I cover up for the dance and the first time she go for the stick shift, she just smiles and says, "that's not going to work."

I wasn't sure what she meant but soon did. As she danced, she systematically removed the cover, leaving me with the decision to be happy or leave unhappy.

I'll keep my decision to myself but I will share the funny part.

When I was finished with the dance, I looked all over the place but couldn't find the misplaced cover. I have no idea what happened to it.
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I had a cover drop out of the cuff of my pants into my sock once ... :P
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everybody has a different reason for going to a stripclub, some go to getoff and some go for the fun but we all end up going at some point, i can honestly say that my trips to the clubs have been great, some guys may be against cumming in their pants during a lapdance.....thats fine....others like the idea or have done it....thats fine as well....and some go and look for straight sex....thats fine too.

in most cases we all go for a different experience, me personally i like the idea of cumming in your pants in a lap dance and it has happend to me a lot and beleave it or not
thats why i go in the first place otherwise id stay home and just jerkoff to internet porn, i find it happens the most when i wear cotton jogging pants (like the ones found at any big name department store)i wear black ones with joe boxer undershorts(also black) and i go to the club and the girls take full advantage of the jogging pants :D, they even sometimes stick their hand down in there to stroke my cock and one time i was really lucky to have a stripper suck my cock in the vip section once.

oh yeah i know that most clubs may have a dress code where you live but here its not really enforced, most clubs in my area have full contact lap dancing and most girls let you touch them and i don't know if you can really call it lap dancing(more like dry humping)but in any case i don't care what its called i like it and as long as i getoff on it they can call it what ever they want, i have been to upscale clubs and they really do just kinda dance with little contact to groin area and more of the look-at-what-you-can't-have-even-if-you-could-afford-it dance but thats just fine with me since i don't really ever plan on going back to a upscale club ever again, the local lower class clubs is where all the real fun is and usually at a cheaper price.

oh and one other thing i keep hearing about this pink site, can some one PM me the url to that site?
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I think it might be stripperweb.com, but I've never poked around there though.
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Don't mis-understand my comments. I am NOT against cumming during a lap dance. I would like to if I could - but I don't see how anyone beyond the age of about 15 can come merely from a friction dance. Now if the dancer helps me along with a hand down my pants - that's good. Like I said, I have no problem if you can do it.
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Do strippers watch porn?
by shadowcat
The few that I have asked, all said no. I guess they get enough sex in the club, etc....
How long do ATF's last?
by rootman
I dove in, been seeing my atf for half a year and done all kinds of stuff with her, especially...
Ashley Alexandra Dupre---natural or not?
by Doug
I'm sure most of you have seen the picture of the call girl Governor Spitzer was with where she is...
Tax time. April 15th approaching.
by shadowcat
I have an appointment with my tax man tomorrow. He has been doing my returns for over 20 years. I...
The Bottom 40
by MisterGuy
I've been perusing the new Bottom 40 listing (thanx Founder), and it's been quite fun.

I feel bad for NJ as...
Mons Venus Dancer: Danny ?
by mets1986
Anyone know what happened to her ? A nice little brunette from Texas, with perfect breasts. They say...
Dancer's Violent and Abusive SOs
by DougS
I can only imagine that dancers' low self-esteem is the only reason they would put up with it. I...
Spitzer's best defense
by David9999
see www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23589422/

From a Today Show interview with a high end provider.

Now this isn't a legal defense, rather a defense...