National Rating Scale

My scale is transferable. It transfers with me wherever I go.

Fair question. I travel a fair bit and do clubs in different parts of the country. I try to rate them the same no matter where I go. But there are areas where the talent pool is deeper than other areas. It's also up to your taste though. I love Miami, but I am very fond of Latinas. If you are into Asian chicks, then Miami doesn't do it for you.

I use the MS scale that coin collectors use; it goes from 0-70 and is logarithmic, but MS 60+ is the only relevant part since any girl under an MS 60 is too ugly to consider putting a grade on (unlike coins). An MS 64 is a pretty girl (maybe a "7"), a 65 is somewhat beautiful (an "8?")and over that reflects mostly personal taste in how outstanding a girl can be. I've never seen an MS 70 and only a handful of 69's. 68's are rare but they exist. Most 'beautiful' girls top out at a 66 with a few 67's popping up now and then. My ATF is a 66 IMHO. It's transferable from place to place but not medium to medium. In photos, girls get 1-2 grades deducted because they are retouched or otherwise inaccurate from what a girl really looks like. In movies they get maybe a 1 point deduction because when you see how they move, or how they talk, it can add back to their overall hotness despite movie makeup. For me, an MS 65 in Chicago is the same as a 65 in Vegas. While some locals may have more hot women than others, it won't change my grade for any particular woman.

Rating on looks is fairly subjective - but yeah there does seem to be geographical differencess - e.g, a PL that has never gotten out of a small Midwest city may not have the proper perspective and may drool at what others consider a '6'

Also depends on the color/origin like WOC or Latino or blonde or asian...PLs who don't like Latinos rate them at best as 8 but PLs who like latinos rate the best looking girl as 10

Are they regionally influenced? No doubt, especially when a number of reviewers rarely leave their local areas. For example, a club that gets a 7 in Value in NYC would likely get a 3-4 almost anywhere else in the country. Conversely, an 8 in a club in KS might be lucky to rate a high 6 in Manhattan. It's all relative. Having said that, I try to be consistent across areas. The only clubs I can remember adjusting ratings for were both NYC clubs that were putting out shamefully bad talent given their locations.

But just to add, I'm not really bothered too much by this. When I am researching a given area, I am focusing on how the local clubs rate relative to one another, not against a national pool per se. Though I suspect that, over time, I will have to find another way to compare clubs as the ratings process is quickly going to shit now.

The scale is based on the individual, not location. My 10 is going to be a 10 no matter where she is.

rating is subjective.

There can be differences with dancers - and that can cause uniformity in ratings to be difficult. Just a simple example: I live in the NY area and it’s a cold winter which can lead to dancers not having a healthy tan glow. If I go to Miami I’m sure the dancers would have more of a sexy glow. So I might rate the Miami dancers as hotter - simply due to the effect of their location. The differences in ethnicity also can make certain areas seem like a proverbial goldmine of hot dancers! I’m lucky - as there is no shortage of hot Latina dancers in my area. I’m sure Miami is even better - but I’m happy here.

No. I think its fine as it is. It will adjust itself with people from vegas and miami and nyc reviewing the other clubs.

Regarding 1-10, I think on the one hand, all of us think we're trying to keep our scale as consistent as possible. On the other, I don't think it's very controversial that your perception of quality will change depending on what's around. I would like to be as confident as Clubber in saying "an 8.5 anywhere is an 8.5 anywhere", but I'm pretty sure perceptions change. In fact, I find the reverse sometimes happens for me. I have many times gone to a mediocre club and seen a girl I thought was attractive... then she switches to the club with the hottest women, and for some reason, she seems way hotter. Perhaps upping her game might account for some of this, but I definitely think being surrounded by other beautiful women makes beautiful women even more beautiful... I think the male mind gets overwhelmed by the kid-in-a-candy-store effect! This was so well-known and observed so often locally, that there's a specific term for this effect on the local SC forums.

"My 10 is going to be a 10 no matter where she is." +1 "My scale is transferable. It transfers with me wherever I go." And +1

I think everyone brings their own biases and preferences to bear when they rate a club. And we all know that. Trying to achieve Pew Research statistical accuracy is likely a non starter. Eventually, you just have to walk into the club and buy a dance... or not.

That’s a very good debate. I admit I’m guilty. I’ve mentioned “I was with this 7 in Detroit” which in reality would be lucky to be a 5 in Phoenix. I will say this, a 10 is a 10 anywhere and I think there should be no deviation and I only recall seeing a 10 ons strip club 3 maybe 4 times in my entire strip club life. I’ve also only seen a 9 probably less than a dozen times as well. I guess anything below an 8 isn’t even worth debating!?!? Lol I always laugh my ass off when some moron here reviews a club and says it was “full of 9s and a few 10s” and I just shrug my shoulders thinking “buddy, places like that don’t exist, especially in Indiana!!”

"but I'm pretty sure perceptions change." They dont for me. An 8.5 doesnt look any better or worse based on how many other 8.5s are around.

"But for example a 10 in Chicago might not be a 10 in Vegas you know what I mean" I have to disagree with your premise. There may be a higher proportion of 9-10's in Vegas, but the rating scale stays the same. In general there's seems to be a common perception of what a 9-10 is. We have movies, porn, etc. as reference points. Take all those "Rate this Girl" threads on here. Discounting those freaks of nature, when someone posted a really hot girl (like that Asian K-Pop singer) the results were all pretty closely grouped.

-->"But just to add, I'm not really bothered too much by this. " Ya, I think the relative pulchritude of the female form is always a fun thing to talk about, but there's so much slop in a simple 1-10 rating that any changes are just over-thinking. BTW, for myself, a couple of years ago here I proposed a crowdsourced version of ratings as an alternative to 1-10 -- I did this somewhat tongue-in-cheek, and somewhat as a self-indulgent exercise in anal-retentive overthinking. But I actually find myself thinking in terms of my crowdsourced buckets instead of 1-10, when I look back on all the CFs and ATFs I've been in public with (it's crowdsourced! She can't get a rating until you're walking around in public! lol)...

The one true answer is “yes and no.” You are enquiring about an objective factor in a subjective process of evaluation. We all have a 1 to 10 rating scale which is based on two things, (1) our own subjective tastes, and (2) the probability distribution of 1s, 2s, 10, etc that we encounter on our daily lives. For instance, I now have a well defined spectrum of 1-10 rating. In my mind, a white, blonde, thin, Victoria’s Secret model who is addicted to satisfying my dick is a 10 (i.e. there are no 10s). BUT, if I go live in Hugh Hefdner’s Playboy mansion and invite all the Victoria’s Secret models and have orgies all the time, my 1-10 scale will undoubtedly change. I.e. the objective reality has changed my subjective process of evaluation.

I'm not so sure my perception changes as much as the old Stephen Sills song applies with the change of a word or two--If you can't be with the one you love, love the one you're with "........ I also believe sometimes the during the initial meeting and early on you find a dancer more attractive than a few months after seeing her in the club. Her looks might not have changed ( than again they could) but the novelty with her has faded.

“Trying to achieve Pew Research statistical accuracy is likely a non starter.” Maybe not. I went back to Lone-Wolf's "Rate this Korean KPOP Dancer" post. Lone-Wolf's premise was she was a "solid 9+." I averaged all the responses and came up with 9.035. (Could have been higher but Papi Chulo down graded her because he thought she was anorexic or something).

I’m spoiled in Los Angeles, lots of beautiful girls. Looking back at it when I lived in Detroit I definitely overrated the girls there.

I always went by the charts with pictures/descriptions like used to be published in men's magazines. So for me, a 6 or a 7 would be a 6 or a 7 anywhere. Ditto for a 10. Same for a 4 doing extras. Where anything less than a 5 is unattractive or she's obese. I think some guys have ego problems with paying for anything less than a 7, and admitting it to other guys. Not many clubs full of 9s and 10s in the midwest, like Shailynn said.

Something like this chart: [view link] not sure I'd buy from a 5 on that chart tho.. I should find a better chart .. shailynn, do you have one?

Also one for the men on a scale of 1 to 10: [view link] So the few dancers on here have something to look at. :)

Dominic Those pictures are showing only [view link] about the bodies.

True. That's why I want to find one of those old charts.

"The one true answer is “yes and no.” " This. In reality at the strip club i dont think "this girls a 7, that ones a 10"(and there really are no 10s). I use the "binary" yes or no scale. If yes, shes at least a 7. But yes or no doesnt change based on location.

It's all so subjective, that there's no way it could ever work. Papi Chulo's perfect 10, Shadowcat's perfect 10, and John Smith's perfect 10 have absolutely 0 overlap whatsoever. Well, they all have a vagina, but that's it - some of s'cat's spinners don't even have tits. GoVikings would give a Latina a 10 that I would leave at a 7 or 8 and chase after an Asian or a MILF. I don't think there's any geographic or demographic differences at work, though. Victoria's Angel pageants, Miss America telecasts, and Cinemax softcore porn look the same on any television anywhere.

My rating scale is transferable. A 9 in Los Angeles is the same as a 9 in Alaska, although there will probably be a ton of 9s in Los Angeles. The physical attractiveness of people is so subjective that a universal rating scale would never work. One guy might think that one stripper is a mid 8 while I'll think she's a 7

Subraman, You might have missed my point. My 10 would have to be Asian, and since so few around, no mater where she was, a 10. That's not saying ANY Asian would be a 10.

Clubber: All 10s are Asians, but not all Asians are 10s?