Dr. Oz vs Uncle Fester

Fetterman, whatever he personally supports, would be a loyal Schumer/Pelosi/Biden stooge. I don't live in PA but that's all I need to know.

As a PA resident, I say…. can’t we do better than a celebrity Dr and a shaved ape as the nominees for US Senate…. God…..

I listened to an interview with Oz yesterday on Fox News, he was saying that Fetterman wants to legalize all drugs, even heroin. This seemed pretty radical to me, and coming from a Republican politician on Fox News, it sounded dubious. Low and behold, when I did a search on it, it turned out to be a lie.

I’m not watching. I can’t stand political debates. They’re all lies no matter which side you’re voting for. Did Fetterman find something to wear besides that ratty old hoodie? That thing has to be getting very ripe by now.

^ Have a link for that ?

You are mistaken. There is nothing in that video about drug dealers.

Here is a quote from the last article you linked: “John is an outspoken advocate for weed legalization and has always believed we should not be criminalizing addiction,” his spokesperson Joe Calvello said. “We need to make sure that we are locking up drug dealers who are pushing and profiting from hard drugs, while making sure that people get real help if they are addicted. But let’s be clear, John does not support decriminalizing all drugs including heroin, methamphetamines, and other hard drugs.”

Yeah that's what I expected Orange, you couldn't back up your lie, just like Oz

Older people with health issues that interfere with their mental functioning need to be gently moved aside in order to let younger people or same age people in better health replace them. Even worse than Fetterman is our current president. He just called Kamala Harris "a great president". If this were just an isolated incident, it could be overlooked but this type of thing is a regular occurrence.

So we have a Democrat candidate who is literally brain-damaged (and yes, I am using the word “literally” correctly) running against a Republican medical doctor, and Pennsylvania voters are so fucked up that the brain damaged Democrat candidate is actually ahead.

I could actually work around the stroke stuff. Nope it’s the insane other shit. While there are other issues I have to admit the Dems have turned me into a one issue voter. This bullshit on crime we see is unforgivable. And Fetterman is yet another asshole all about that no jail ever life.

Wild is the typical fucking progressive retard. Just like Fetterman.

What we are seeing in all these gubernatorial and senate debates is the result of media coddling the left and attacking the right. The lefties never have to defend themselves while the right must constantly defend their policies. Practice makes perfect.

Logic. People need to use it more. Example - I don’t want to go to work today, but I do want to get a paycheck, so I get up and go to work. See? I used logic to help me make my decision. Why on earth do people who are running our government not use logic when they open their mouths as well as to make decisions? I would consider running for office and using strictly logic, but with my luck during the campaign a stripper named Wynter would call me out for getting a BJ at One Eyed Willys strip club back in 2014 which would torpedo my campaign, so I just post on a strip club message board instead.

I suspect that this debate seriously hurt Fetterman. I'm sure he didn't want to do it at all, but only did so because his unwillingness to debate Oz was being used as a cudgel and his poll numbers were sliding. IMHO he would have been better off trying to find another way to boost his numbers rather than putting himself on display like that. Ouch.

The left is perfectly rational if you understand their foundational beliefs - Democrats are morally superior because they care about others - By definition, anyone who opposes them is evil - People cannot be trusted to make decisions about their lives - Government is the solution to all problems - More government spending energizes the economy

New Fetterman campaign slogan just dropped. If you don't vote for this retard you're a Nazi.

If you read that a well known doctor is running against a shit for brains dullard, you’d think the doctor would hold a huge lead in the polls. However, that is not reality anymore. This cross between Slingblade and Herman Munster is polling well in Pa!

It must suck to have to depend on lies and insults, but at least it helps some Republicans bond with each other. Without that shared camaraderie and peer-reinforcement, it would be harder for them to look in the mirror and not be ashamed.

^Wah.

Watched it. I've seen so many short clips of the dude being incoherent, I expected far worse. In that regard he did better than expected. Before anyone gets triggered, I would never vote for the socialist. He just did better than expected based on the all the clips shown.

I'm not a big supporter of Fetterman personally and his stroke last May was unfortunate. From what I've seen though, I think on character he wins. Dr. Oz is a celebrity surgeon who promoted dietary supplements and weight loss products. He seems a bit like Trump, wanting to vault his celebrity status and following to the next level.

“He seems a bit like Trump, wanting to vault his celebrity status and following to the next level.” A politician who wants to increase his power. I suspect there are one or two other politicians who have that characteristic. Some might even be Democrats.

Post debate polls haven't come out yet. The consensus, even among Democrats, was that something is seriously wrong with him. This will not help his cause. His fracking flip won't endear him to either side. And his Shawshank Redemption freeing Morgan Freeman quote was just bizarre. I don't live in PA but all I'd need to know is he'd be a rubber stamp for Schumer, Pelosi, and Biden.

Check this out - a group called "Real Doctors Against Oz" is tweeting against him REAL doctors don’t condescendingly mock patients who are recovering from a stroke. Here’s the truth: In January, John is going to be a lot better – but Dr. Oz will still be a fraud. #RealDoctorsAgainstOz https://twitter.com/docsagainstoz/status/1585307025713795074?cxt=HHwWhMDQ-eWVkoAsAAAA

Wow a bunch of left-wing douchebags are "real" doctors lol. Sounds more like little jealous bitches. Typical progressives. The idea Fetterman is running is a disgrace. Pretending he is o.k. is a disgrace. Having a stroke is tough luck but putting him in the senate is criminal. Of course, the Democratic base is made up of criminals and illegals who are criminals.

This is the reason this country is in trouble, I can't imagine either of these two as a United States Senator, a semi vegetable and a con man, snake oil salesman, Pennsylvanians are fucked no matter who gets the job. Actually both qualities are in abundance amongst all of our elected representatives.

^The true problem is that Americans blame everyone but the people responsible for the absolute lying, cheating shithead garbage we elect, because accepting blame is very tough for human beings. Americans get the representatives we so richly deserve. The founding Fathers didn't see politician as a career or even a paid job. They didn't envision illiterates voting. The system was designed to have the wealthy serve for free, based on the idea they were rich, had the time, were self-supporting and owed it to us. The common person had no time because we were just trying to survive. Educated landowners who had a long-term stake in the community were supposed to be the voting public. Now we get people I wouldn't let fold my clothes, choosing who will run the country. Detocqueville was almost as smart as George Orwell in predicting this outcome. "A Democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until a majority discovers it can vote itself largesse out of the public treasury. After that, the majority always votes for the candidate promising the most benefits with the result that democracy collapses because of loose fiscal policy, always to be followed by a dictatorship, then a monarchy. Student loan cancellation, let's make inflation worse spending bill; stimulus 1, stimulus 2, transportation bill, reparations, welfare, free medical, no college tuition, basic income, millionaire's tax, flooding the country with poverty stricken illegals ........................

The most shocking part of that entire Oz-Fetterman mess is that the MSM and democrat establishment actually support Fetterman. Where are the adults to intervene and stop his candidacy? This is why populist votes don't always work. This would be fine for a state rep. A person with cardiovascular disease and trouble forming full sentences would be a perfect representative for most Pennsylvanians, but Senators are supposed to be our best and brightest - not Oz, Schumer, Clinton, or Obama. Appointments to the Senate should be sent back to state legislatures and serve a single 10-year term. Let the hacks run for representative every two years.

It's too early to write off Fetterman. He is recovering, his speech may improve, and his intelligence and cognitive abilities are what matter most. He's not the smooth-talking politician we are used to, but that doesn't mean he won't be able to make good decisions aligned with the interests of Pennsylvanians.

Fetterman got caught with his pants down on the fracking question. That is going to stick in the minds of every person who watched that debate. There is no recovering from that. He simultaneously showed how full of shit he was while showcasing his lack of cognitive abilities to come up with a convincing lie to cover his tracks.

'REAL doctors don’t condescendingly mock patients who are recovering from a stroke.' Lol, he's not Ozz's patient, he's an opponent that has consistently attacked ozz. You're ok with those attacks but are not ok with ozz defending himself. Typical hypocrite. Funny

Ever since Tuscl has been online, key issues (most if not all) have been split along party lines. Voters need to look at the big picture. If you want change from present direction, vote Republican (I'm a registered Independent myself) regardless of how much you like or dislike the candidates themselves. Muddy has the right idea. In addition to crime issue, mine would be 1) Energy Independence (Knock off attacking oil/fracking industry) 2) Weak foreign policy which emboldens Putin, Xi, etal, to make rash moves that directly or indirectly hurt worlds population) 3) Open borders I won't elaborate on above, except in political thread, or in a club setting if you're buying.

Fester's campaign slogan: I might be retarded, but I am not as retarded as Joe Biden.

As usual, w4t has no clue what he is talking about. After 6 months, you have recovered as much as you are going to. There may be some marginal improvement over years as the brain learns to compensate, but that is often offset by age-related mental deterioration exacerbated by the prior stroke. They very fact that he continues to run after suffering a stroke and making all of these failures is proof that he cannot make good decisions. However, none of that matters. What Minnow wrote is true. You are going to vote on party lines. Do you want record-high inflation? Do you want record-high gas prices? Do you like China controlling the UN, Russia trampling the rights of its neighboring states, and Iran free to pose an existential threat to the Holy Land? Do you like lawlessness at the southern border, do you like crime spiking in every urban area and spreading to the suburbs, do you like shortages of basic necessities caused by incompetent government? Are you a fan of men taking over womens' sports, bathrooms, and LGBTQIA+ indoctrination in every Sunday school, pre-school, and childrens' library? How stupid Fetterman is will not change that, nor will how demented Biden is. You vote the party. You vote for BIG red wave, that can impeach Joe Biden, impeach Kamala Harris, and get us the hell out of this mess.

They had to make special arrangements for Fetterman because he hasn’t recovered from his stroke a few months ago, and set up a teleprompter because he can’t hear too well. His confusion showed, and maybe that’s why Oz’s team wanted so badly to debate gores say Oz makes a perfect politician, he’s always been a hack.

Fetterman's problem is not hearing, it is comprehension. The captioning was a screen to assist him, and the captioning was done professionally and worked perfectly; Fetterman is just not cognitively capable of debate. I'm not an Oz fan, but as I wrote before: you are voting to repair the damage done by the democrat party and reverse course. Moreover, any Republican candidate had a duty to the people to drag Fetterman out of his basement and put the effects of his stroke on display. There are reports that many early voters regret voting for Fetterman. Again, what the hell did you expect when you voted for a democrat?

I want to go as wild4tatas for Halloween, but I'll never be able to stick my head that far up my ass.

>>"'REAL doctors don’t condescendingly mock patients who are recovering from a stroke.' Lol, he's not Ozz's patient, he's an opponent that has consistently attacked ozz. You're ok with those attacks but are not ok with ozz defending himself. Typical hypocrite. Funny" That's classic liberal Cry Bully.

>The most shocking part of that entire Oz-Fetterman mess is that the MSM and democrat establishment actually support Fetterman. That's not shocking at all and expected behavior.

"PA Secretary Of State Says Election Results Face Possible Delays In Counting, Denounces ‘Nefarious’ Activity" Pennsylvania acting Secretary of State Leigh M. Chapman said during a news conference that the state’s midterm election could likely experience delays in counting the ballots. Chapman said the news conference was held to prevent misinformation from spreading before the November 8 election day approaches, according to local media. “It’s really important for us to get accurate information about the election process in Pennsylvania,” Chapman said. “So voters and the public know that when there are delays in counting, it doesn’t mean that there’s anything nefarious happening. It’s just what the law is in Pennsylvania.” Chapman told NBC that results for the U.S. Senate and governor races would not be available on election night because of a state law restricting when officials could begin counting mail-in ballots. However, Chapman also said she believes the spread of misinformation could lead to voting interruptions. Chapman said that since she has taken office at the beginning of the year, state officials have met with authorities from the FBI and Department of Homeland Security to discuss the “current threat landscape.” The state official added that tools would be provided to Pennsylvania counties to ensure election officials would have physical and cyber security protections. In response to Republican leaders telling voters to drop off their ballots in election drop boxes or turn them in on Election Day rather than mailing in their votes, Chapman said voters should return the ballots as soon as possible to prevent further delay. Phillip Holloway, a former major crimes prosecutor, police officer, and founder of the Holloway Law Group, said in a tweet that such ballot-counting tactics are becoming “the norm.” “Gone are the days when election winners were revealed late on election night,” Holloway said. “This new normal for elections cannot lead to public confidence in election integrity.” During the 2020 presidential election, media outlets declared Joe Biden the winner for Pennsylvania on November 7 — four days after Election Day. According to Chapman, more than 1.3 million Pennsylvania residents have requested mail-in ballots, with approximately 556,000 returned. InsiderAdvantage released a poll Thursday showing Republican Mehmet Oz leads Democrat John Fetterman for Pennsylvania’s open U.S. Senate seat by three points, while in the governor’s race, Democrat Josh Shapiro continues to hold off Republican Doug Mastriano by eight points. The survey of 750 likely Pennsylvania voters was conducted on October 26 with a margin of error of 3.58%. https://www.dailywire.com/news/pa-secretary-of-state-says-election-results-face-possible-delays-in-counting-denounces-nefarious-activity

^ no worries - according to the article "the uncorruptable FBI" is on the case. The country of France recently managed to do a NATIONAL election and have all votes counted the same day (no early voting shit; mail-in shit; and just using paper-ballots) - but I"m sure places like Philly are "corruption-proof" when it comes to elections. IMO the only real-chance the Dems have in many areas is "election irregularities" - I can see a shit-show happening this cycle w.r.t. the votes/count (and not only in PA but also other contested areas like GA etc).

More related Philly news: "Philly Deputy Sheriff Caught On Camera Illegally Selling Guns Used By Illegal Alien In Fatal School Shooting: Report" Federal law enforcement officials arrested 29-year-old Philadelphia Deputy Sheriff Samir Ahmad on Thursday after they caught him on video allegedly selling firearms that were used in a fatal school shooting by an illegal alien to an FBI informant who posed as an illegal alien. Ahmad, who joined the Philadelphia Sheriff’s Office in February 2018, was a sworn law enforcement officer when he allegedly sold the two handguns and ammunition to the confidential informant. The confidential informant paid Ahmad $3,000 for the firearms and told him that he was illegally in the U.S. and that he could be “deported” if he was caught with the guns. “You don’t got to worry about none of that,” Ahmad responded. After the exchange, Ahmad was fired by Philadelphia Sheriff’s Office and arrested by federal agents. https://www.dailywire.com/news/philly-deputy-sheriff-caught-on-camera-illegally-selling-guns-used-by-illegal-alien-in-fatal-school-shooting-report

I've noticed pretty much the same right wing playbook each election cycle, especially when Republicans are trying to regain power. The right wing media and politicians run a constant narrative of "the country is in great danger and this is the most important election of our lifetime." The same or similar stories are repeated over and over and over, creating a distorted image in the minds of their followers. Many of these people don't even realize their perception is being manipulated. Of course, most people will bristle at the idea that they are being manipulated and aren't thinking independently. But if they would unplug from the right wing machine for awhile, they might notice the effect. There are a couple of posters right here on TUSCL that could be the poster child for how well the right wing machine is doing it's job.

Fetterman's wife said swimming is racist (essentially). Meanwhile... Fetterman himself wants to legalize METH. So, it's not his unfortunate stroke effects that disqualify him from serious consideration for office.

"The right wing media and politicians run a constant narrative of "the country is in great danger and this is the most important election of our lifetime."" And the most un-self-aware post of the day goes to wld4tatas. Newsflash, bro. Your own party is the king of that this cycle. Except you have so little to go on that you have to fearmonger about someone who isn't even running. EnD Of DeMoCrAcY Pathetic!

The Dems are the ones that do everything they accuse the Republicans of doing - they get away with it bc they have the mainstream-media and social-media on their side to help propagate and amplify their lies and snears.

I don't even consider progressives to be Americans. Just citizens,

Of course Dems run on the dangers of electing the other party too. But nobody whips their base into a state of doom and gloom and false reality better than Republicans and Faux News. Have to give credit where credit is due. The biggest threat to democracy in this country right now are the pro-Trump election deniers that could potentially support his re-election in two years. This is a demonstrable fact.

"... The Dems are the ones that do everything they accuse the Republicans of doing - they get away with it bc they have the mainstream-media and social-media on their side to help propagate and amplify their lies and snears ..." And why the left is losing-their minds over losing Twitter to free-speech.

^ Another poster who needs to unplug from Faux News. It is doubtful most Dems care much about Musk and Twitter. I don't.

"The biggest threat to democracy in this country right now are the pro-Trump election deniers that could potentially support his re-election in two years. This is a demonstrable fact." No. It's your opinion, fearmongered into you from CNN and MSNBC and ABC and CBS and NBC. See? I can make the same statements too. Dems can't run on their record so they gave up a few months ago. It's abortion abortion abortion Trump Trump Trump. Now your leaders are complaining that Americans have the wrong priorities. And when you lose in a couple weeks, you're going to double down on Americans not knowing what's best for them, rather than your own fuckups. And 24 you'll still have Dopey Joe, and a much tougher Senate map to defend.

"... The biggest threat to democracy in this country right now are the pro-Trump election deniers ..." Typical leftist spin - the Dems spent 4 years calling Trump an illegitimate president-several democrats tried to block the certification of the 2016-election - the Dems said Trump won bc the Russians interfered - Dems created a false Russian collision so they could impeach Trump - Abrams in GA spent 4-years saying she had won and the election was stolen from her - and recently you had Hillary saying the Republicans were gonna steal the next election. When the Dems win it's declared a perfect election and no questions are allowed to be raised - when Republicans win it's illegitimate. Same old playbook of the Dems accusing the Republicans of doing exactly what the Dems do.

>See? I can make the same statements too. Sure - but the difference is you can't back it up. Anyone who followed the January 6th hearings has seen all the testimony and evidence to reasonably conclude Trump attempted to subvert democracy, and would do so again. Even some Republicans admit it. There's nothing on the Dem side that even comes close to what Trump tried to do.

Funny, I didn't realize people trying to "subvert democracy" wore costumes rather than tactical gear and rifles. Your statement is true, just not in the way you think. Inventing scandals to bog down a duly elected administration is more damaging to democracy than a riot which never had a chance to "subvert democracy." Anyways, keep trying to stoke fear of someone who isn't on the ballot and doesn't even have his preferred tool of communication.* Meanwhile real people are hurting and gravitate towards issues where Republicans have the advantage. Democrats should think long and hard about why they're losing 2022 like they are, but introspection isn't their strong suit. *This will be remedied soon. You'll have to cope.

>a riot which never had a chance to "subvert democracy." Are you kidding me? Please go read up on the January 6th findings, there was much more going on than just the riot.

Wow, is this thread getting melodramatic. Look, I agree 100% that the hyperbole coming from both sides - right and left - is getting silly. I drown most of that goofy nonsense out. But specifically as it relates to Fetterman, he showed everyone what he was when he got his pants pulled, bent over the table and fucked with an elephant dick with the fracking question. Maybe if he wasn't so fucked up in the head he could have come up with a more convincing lie to cover his tracks, but there it is. That is the problem with these extreme liberals - they know they have to lie to get elected because their positions, if truly known, would be deeply unpopular. They simply figure that the ends justify the means and that, once in charge, they'll know what's best for everyone. We've seen it with Obama and Biden, complete 180s the second they get in office. It is truly concerning to see behavior like that from our elected leaders.

^ Didn't say that. Pay attention. The January 6th hearings uncovered an entire scheme to overturn the election. January 6 was just the culmination of a coup attempt. As we know now, Trump pressured Mike Pence to block the certification of electoral votes.

On Friday Biden said at a rally for Fetterman that he has visited 54 states to increase support for keeping drug prices down.

Maybe he considers Puerto Rico and DC as states already.

Rick - you are absolutely right. The reason Biden got the nomination in 2020 was because the Democrats coalesced around him out of fear that Bernie would get the nomination because Bernie actually has the temerity to say what he would actually try to do if elected and they new that would scare the shit out of independent voters. I agree with Bernie on virtually nothing policy wise, but at least he bullshits less than just about any other politician about what he believes.

Dr oz is about as credible as trumps pillow guy

Icee, I’m not a big fan of Oz either, but the plan obviously is to get Fetterman elected but then have his Marxist wife be the de facto Senator. Given that choice, I’ll take Oz She’s a race-baiting, woke activist who entered this country illegally.

Oz has made a "career" of lying and selling snake oil. I can see we #DementedDonald thinks he's great

“Oz has made a "career" of lying and selling snake oil” As I said, I’m not a fan. Oprah (The Antichrist) made him famous so not liking anything she touches However, given the alternative…

Haha vs Fetterman whose entire persona as a working class joe is an utter fabrication. Guy was a privilleged private school kid lived off his rich parents giving him $50k a year and never worked a day in his life. Got caught lying about supporting fracking which was a bald faced lie proven with him recorded saying multiple times he wanted it stopped. If the left didn't have double standards they'd have no standards.

Coz right wing nuts are showing their standards with oz 🤡🤡🤡😱😱😂😂😂😭😭😭

Kind of funny that the best the Democrats could do is a rich guy who never worked hard, pulled a shotgun on a man because he was black and had a stroke leaving him a feeb.

Saw that Oprah endorsed Fetter-freak Not sure if she still has the influence she once had when she could mention a book title and it would sell millions of copies, but wondering why she is interjecting herself in a state race where she doesn’t live

"... but wondering why she is interjecting herself in a state race where she doesn’t live ..." I was wondering the same thing - especially Fetterman of all people - my "guess" is that she was asked to do so by the Dems-powers-to-be (Barry etc?) and perhaps she felt she had to go to bat for the Dem team?

So you guys only like carpetbaggers if they’re on your side, let’s be fair here, nobody on either the left, nor the right, likes carpetbaggers coming in telling us common folks how to live. I’m not from, nor in Pennsylvania, but I’ll bet they feel the same way.

Oprah endorses Fetterman - and her timing was perfect. She was the one who made Oz famous on TV. Oh man that's got to hurt Oz, at least on a personal level. We'll see how it impacts voting. I watched the following short interview with Fetterman, he was pretty well spoken. The contrast in authenticity between him and Oz is amazing. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/oprah-endorses-john-fetterman-over-mehmet-oz-pennsylvania-senate-race/

You actually think Oprah matters, LOL?! She is no more relevant than you are credible. Such a tool!

An absolute joke. Fetterman is unfit to serve. Reading between the lines even the liberal NY Times had an article describing his difficulties and approached saying he is unfit

I’d like to hear a voter justify their choice. If it was vote purely along political lines, that’s horrible

October 2022: Pennsylvania Democratic Senate nominee John Fetterman is “recovering well from his stroke” and “has no work restrictions and can work full duty in public office,” according to a medical report released Wednesday by the lieutenant governor’s primary care physician.

Depression is a known consequence of the neurological damage from a stroke. I know we're going to hear "what about Oz"--yeah, what about you dumb ding dongs choosing better in the Dem primary? Fetterman was a trust fund baby turned mayor of a dying Rust Belt town. What in there made you think he could handle the US Senate?