To Hell with proportionate responses

Friday, March 24, 2023 1:17 PM
US retaliates with airstrikes in Syria after Iranian drone strike kills US contractor [view link] Iran, not Iranian backed militants but Iran, controlled the drone and used it to kill Americans. We tit-for-tat retaliated with our drones. This is weak and unconvincing. We should respond in a fashion which makes Iran too afraid to ever challenge America again. Sink their flagship, MOAB their nuke reactor centrifuge site, level their central military command. One of those or all of those- conventional military plans are not effective against Iran. Remember when Trump droned Soleimani, and Iran retaliated with missile attacks against our bases in Iraq? Trump erred immensely by tweeting disinformation when he should have punished Iran's military by decreasing it to a fraction of it's previous size. Allowing a third rate power to attack us with only the mildest responses not only fails to discourage subsequent attacks, but invites more attacks by the original belligerent and other enemies who are watching.

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Agreed, any situation requiring a military response should be swift and eztremely severe. The entire world should take notice of how we respond and expect that same response to any action they might consider taking against us. It absolutely should be disproportionate when we are REACTING to aggression against our country and people. That is the only way to keep every other foreign power in check and would change the shape of all foreign decisions. They would all tread far more carefully and we have far lass difficult situations as the rest of the world would always be walking on egg shells.
Broker02
a year ago
Damn, I'm tired of being right! https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11898631/Missiles-slam-base-Syria-Iran-backed-militants-retaliate-airstrikes.html
gammanu95
a year ago
While I disagree with the Israelis’ treatment of the Palestinians, their policy to respond to aggression against them with X times force is something I think they get right.
Hank Moody
a year ago
While I don’t disagree with the sentiment, we can’t just go around nuking everyone. Countries like Iran are controlled by lunatics who just don’t give a fuck about their country or it’s people. So the threat of obliteration is not a deterrent to people like this. They would love to die a martyr. Blowing up Iran (or any other piece of shit rogue nation) would only create more global chaos and humanitarian suffering that the world community (mostly US) would have to deal with.
iknowbetter
a year ago
Get your enemy before they get you.
skibum609
a year ago
@iknowbetter: so you agree with Obama that America can absorb another 9/11, another Pearl Harbor, and should not act to deter the threat before the second attack? It's okay to be a pacifist, but it's a shitty national security plan.
gammanu95
a year ago
I work for the military. The military is having a lot of trouble meeting recruiting goals. Not many young men want to possibly fight and die for leaders like the senile Biden and his woke American empire. We should not even be in Syria. We have serious problems at home we need to focus on. We have open borders, a collapsing banking system, soon to be runaway inflation, high crime levels, failing schools, an insolvent Social Security system and a thirty trillion-dollar national debt which is increasing another two trillion dollars every year.
docsavage
a year ago
I hope Biden drops dead and Kamala becomes President. You've got to hit rock bottom before things can start to improve. We're not quite there yet, but Kamala would guarantee it can't get any worse.
misterorange
a year ago
Sure, we just need to fuck them up hard, and problem solved. That worked so well in Iraq and Afghanistan. After Khobar Towers, Clinton unleashed a wave of covert ops against Iran, which backed them down for a good spell.
ilbbaicnl
a year ago
Remember Children; “From the Boston Tea Party where disguised as American Indians, destroyed an entire shipment of tea sent by the East India Company to create a war, to the Gulf of Tonkin Incident, a made up attack used as a pretext for escalation of U.S. involvement in Vietnam, Afghanistan, Irak etc etc etc and now Ukraine 🇺🇦 and supposedly airstrikes in Syria some Americans keep manufacturing conflict and wars for the financial benefit of the one percent. It is in the DNA The United States of America to manufacture war s for profit. All the wars created/waged by the leaders/monarchs of the British and American empires were and are to this day wars of aggression for profit and take place outside the USA, and of course the stated aim of the war is presented to the public as something “noble” like protecting freedom, yes the freedom to conquest, plunder and steal of course… Even a Swedish child is aware of this UNDENIABLE REALITY: “It is the sufferings of the many which pay for the luxuries of the few.” ~ Greta Tintin Eleonora Ernman Thunberg ~ Born: 3rd January 2003 Stockholm, Sweden ~ Occupation: Student, environmental activist ~ Awards: ~ Fritt Ord Award (2019) ~ Rachel Carson Prize (2019) ~ Ambassador of Conscience Award (2019) ~ Right Livelihood Award (2019) ~ International Children's Peace Prize (2019) ~ Time Person of the Year (2019) ~ Gulbenkian Prize for Humanity (2020
CJKent_band
a year ago
Don't forget she got an honorary doctorate of theology this week. A little too on point, but funny.
dannyboy3
a year ago
The US military is done. It was humiliated by sandal wearing goat fuckers in Afganistan. Its losing its proxy war in Ukraine against a "gas station masquerading as a country." Thats what happens when you hand a military over to gays, feminists, the racial grievance
Dave_Anderson
a year ago
industry, etc.
Dave_Anderson
a year ago
Shortly after WW II the US and the British devised a secret plan to nuke the Middle Eastern oilfields to keep them out of the hands if the Soviet’s if they ever invaded. CIA operatives were planted in ARAMCO and BP. If you’re into alt-history sci-fi, it would be interesting to speculate the course of history if the US and Brits had turned the sands of the Middle East into glass
motorhead
a year ago
The realities of nuclear war always ends in holocaust. There was a study, a few years ago, that showed even a regional exchange of small nuclear powers like India and Pakistan would cause enough ash to block out the sun. The resulting global famine and mini Ice Age would be enough to imperil humanity. I think it was 70,000 years ago or so that the Mount Toba supervolcano erupted, reducing humanity to only a few hundred breeding couples. It would be kind of like that, but with nuclear plants melting down, chemical plants erupting toxic gas plumes, and oil refineries rupturing poisonous chemicals into the environment.
gammanu95
a year ago
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