Iowa Caucus results

Think Trump would take one of those three as a running mate? If so in what order?

Trump invited the Clintons to his wedding. Are they allies in his bold crusade against the Deep State?

Trump v. Biden = America loses. Too bad they are both horrid vermin and that only the good die young .........

I voted third party in 2016 and 2020. I couldn't bring myself to vote for Trump. But in 2024, if he's the nominee, I'll happily vote for him. Dems have been trying to get him since he descended the escalator, they're reaching even further into their grab bag of dirty tricks. I love DeSantis' willingness to go to the mat for conservative policies, but he's known to be a standoffish guy. He'd be a great president but he's a horrible candidate. The more Haley talks, the more I think she's a squish who'll be only slightly to the right of Biden, content to slightly slow the march of progressivism rather than undo the damage Biden has wreaked. Vivek always seemed to be jockeying for a position in a Trump administration; if so, he might be Trump's heir apparent. I called Trump to win the general a year ago, and I've only increased that conviction since then.

Trump does well with evangelicals and those without a college degree. Polls predicted he’d win the way he did in Iowa so surprise. Fact is that the last two winners of the Iowa caucuses didn’t get the ticket. Think Ted Cruz and Michael Hucklebee, both losers in their campaign bid. Democrats will be happy to see trump get the nod, because he’ll easily be defeated since he polls poorly with college educated and more affluent republicans. Trumps last victory was ‘16 general election. Since then he’s lost ‘18 mid terms, ‘20 general elections, then the stolen election claims, and also most candidates who endorsed him during the ‘22 mid terms. Trump has been consistently branded as a loser, lately. That trend continues, fortunately. Interesting to see the polls for New Hampshire where there are more college educated and affluent republican voters. Trump isn’t polling well. I voted for him twice, but after January 6th, never again. That was real news.

The fact that corrupt people are coming after Trump doesn't mean he isn't corrupt. His promises mean nothing. Did he lock up Hilary? Did Mexico pay for the wall? He can't get out of a conviction in Georgia without eliminating the powers of the US legal system. Whatever he tries to replace it with will be as good as his replacement for Obamacare. He will have to use the military to carry it out. Even if you do want a Trump dictatorship, probably some military officers, because of their oath to the Constitution, will not consider orders scoffing court authority to be lawful. And then we'll have civil war.

^ This country won't survive under the current dictatorship.

I personally can't stand Trump. He's an egotistical arrogant blabbermouth. but I'll vote for him again.

USA, undefeated in world wars, but lost in politics. awful choices since 2000!!

It’ll be a rematch between Trump and Biden, with the same results except a wider margin of victory. I’m not a fan of Biden, however 70% of the population views Trump unfavorably. Biden is the lesser of two dummies.

January 6th is what weak, mindless, feeble losers focus upon. having said that I won't vote for Trump (never even consider Democrats, who aren't even Americans), so I have the rest of the year off. We deserve to fail and be killed by our external and internal enemies.

Really sucks. Way past the time for Trump move from the spotlight of the Presidency. He has personality traits that have made him an effective leader but are also very divisive. He has a obnoxious public persona. I’m not sure he can win. Biden is a train wreck. Weak and a proven liar. Not much of a choice.

Trump usually isn't my first choice, but I understand the sympathy for him. I actually think he had a good run as president even though I took a huge hit to the wallet without the SALT deduction. But, I get why he did it. I don't know where others are reading their polls, but Trump is beating Biden just about everywhere and has made huge headway into various demographics. Surprisingly, it's Nikki Haley that's absolutely crushing Biden in a head-to-head. I'm more supportive of Trump now than I was in 2016, fwiw.

I mean the Biden admin is the worst all time. That's not hyperbolic, you just can't bring in closing in on 10 million illegals (around the size of North Carolina's population) in just three years. The American taxpayer can't afford that. Take the political vitriol out of it, it's just a math thing at this point and many big city mayors like Eric Adams all deep down know this. Open borders and socialism don't mix. Read "The Strange Death of Europe" by Douglas Murray really hands down one of the greatest books of all time, it's about when you have mass unvetted migration from wildly different cultures into a country and just what that does. I'll be voting for Desantis in the primary when it comes around. He'd be a great president but yeah I was frustrated with the campaign. I mean dude why can't you do what RFK and Vivek were doing and going on every platform that would have you. If you know your stuff, those situations won't scare you off and should be great opportunities for people to get to know you. Going on fox news for 5 minutes every week just ain't enough. He started doing more towards the end but it was probably too little, too late. I'll also look hard at RFK. He's left of me but I think he's a good dude and authentic. I disagree on a lot but I'm also lock step with him on a lot of other stuff. Common sense type dude I could live in a country where he's president. Vivek had the balls to say some wild shit that is important we have a conversation about that the liberal media shuts down all the time so it was good to just get out there. He's came off obnoxious at times, but he clearly a real high IQ guy and I think he's a got big future. He does have to shave his sideburns though nobody is going to trust a guy looking like a fucking riverboat gambler. Trump, he's a real divisive and not my first choice but I got to admit he does piss off the liberal elite like nobody else and that counts for something. I mean I see it around my neck of the woods all the time and it's throughout this country. Wine drinking, liberal coastal elite in their Manhattan ivory towers pushing radical policies that ultimately regular folks down below always end up having to pay the price for. So a good rule of thumb for me is any candidate that they don't like is who I know is who I should be voting for.

What are y’all predicting for New Hampshire next week? DeSantis focusing on SC but that may not help Haley much. She will get the benefit of independents being allowed to vote in the primary. I’ll put a flag in the sand: 44% Mar a Lardo 37% Haley 18% DeSastrous

So who supposedly stopped Trump from deporting million of illegal immigrants while he was President? An illegal immigrant is more likely to be a worker than a US citizen. You can't just deport millions of them. You have to be ready to put able people who are here legally into the jobs that are vacated. You also have to look at the risk of turning Mexico and Central America into Somalia. That is the kind of thing that makes people think pro-Trumpers are just racists. Because their claims for why they support Trump make no sense. Biden deserves a lot of criticism for not helping local governments to feed and house the asylum parolees until they find work. But I guess the Trumpers thinks he can fix it by throwing rolls of paper towels at them? Congress controls the asylum laws.

Ski being dumb, again! As if Jan 6 never happened. How stupid do you have to be to let that pass? Oh, that’s right, we are talking about the dumbest skier to ever live. I’m sure they could put a lift on his head and ski down the slope of his forehead, cro-magnum style.

Taking third is bad for Haley. She needs a strong performance in NH or she's toast

“though I took a huge hit to the wallet without the SALT deduction.” Me too!!!!!!

Bunch of trump tards in here. Biden is a tard to. Now get to the club where we don't have to talk about this shit.

Losing the SALT deduction was a huge middle class tax hike

I got hit on the change to the SALT deduction too. Meanwhile Trump’s tax cuts helped billionaires pay less than the working class for the first time.

If you use the word trumptard, it outs you as a homosexual bottom, but it's still better than the lie wildforpotatos posted.

It's a real shame Governor Greg Abbot is not running this cycle, who if you think about it, is easily the greatest living American today. And disabled. It's honor to live in the same time period as that man. An honor.

Unfortunately Trump will very likely win the Republican nomination and he’s destined to lose, he hasn’t gotten any better, and once the primaries are settled, the Democrats will remind everyone how much chaos he caused during his short tenure, and because of the disgust with the current do nothing congress, good chance we end up with all three elected branches of government being Democrat controlled.

Abbot would sure cut down on annual deaths from people being electrocuted.

Trump is not the answer - but saw Biden cancelled another $5 billion in student debt. He can’t keep running amok buying votes. This has to stop

Yes Kamala is no where near as eloquent as Trump: https://www.the-independent.com/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-news-texas-rally-speech-b2003963.html The student loan issue is complicated. A lot of teenagers were sold a bill of guods, told that ANY college studies would lead to an increased income, that would more than justify going into debt. (And they didn't at least get them drunk first like we do.) Biden has pushed back on more general student debt cancellation, that would help higher-income people.

"The student loan issue is complicated. A lot of teenagers were sold a bill of guods, told that ANY college studies would lead to an increased income, that would more than justify going into debt." It isn't complicated. You entered into a legally binding contract, you honor it. There's no carve out provision for having received bad or outdated advice, as we all did as kids.

It is a complicated issue, just not for the reason stated. College tuition and fees have increased at a disproportionately high rate over the last 30 years. Those increases were fueled not by demand or increased costs, but by easy debt. Blame it both on the government for guaranteeing that debt or on the schools for taking advantage and just raising prices because they could. Yes, the students signed the loan agreements, but of the students, government and universities, which group has the grossly inadequate bargaining power? Should the government just write it off? That seems wrong. But saying it’s all on the students ignores the change in the market and the lack of options by the students.

The highest court in the land has already ruled on this. Roberts wrote “The question here is not whether something the should be done; it is who has the authority to do it.” Enough said. Ultra lib justice Kagan hilariously called the ruling political when in fact the 3 leftist justices who dissented are the ones making it political. So…Biden is trying it again even after being told he can’t. Just shows his total ineptitude. Again, I’m not a Trump guy - it would be horrible if he were elected again. It’s too bad the Republicans can’t come up with a viable candidate. I fear Trump will get the nomination and we have another 4 years of Biden - or worse yet, Harris.

One thing about this country, is that everyone hates the give-aways promoted by their favorite team Right Wing as well as Leftist, but funny how they all get pissed off over the other sides handouts to folks they deem undeserving, yet they greedily hold their hands out when it’s their turn Neither side is blameless, time to vote every member of both houses of congress out of office and let’s find a presidential candidate who is honest and willing to stand up for the right things.

^^. Best post of the decade !!

That's something neither Biden nor Trump did anything about, the shitty university system keeps putting more young people in the same bad spot, even while it's previous victims are getting limited relief. The university system originally was designed for people so rich they would never have to work. Forget the Internet, it's been obsolete since the printing press was invented (which is why it emphasizes in-person lecturing). It makes sense for the government to make occupational training affordable. But anything beyond that should not be the burden of taxpayers. In my case for example (IT), I could have learned my trade with about a year of relevant training. I did not need four years at a public, taxpayer-subsidized university, with most of the classes I was required to take not being relevant to my future work. In some of those classes I learned stuff I'm glad I know. But I could have just bought the textbook and read it, no cost to taxpayers.

Given the obvious number of homeless people, I don't see how anyone can say there's too much help for the needy. Either there's too little, or it's going to the wrong people, or both. The real way the Democrats buy votes is with do little, do nothing, and do more harm than good government jobs. The people in those jobs know where their bread is buttered, they know who they have to vote for. That's why one of the best anti-poverty programs, the negative income tax (EITC), was created by the Republican Party. It helps the working poor, without creating a big bureaucracy of poverty pimps drawing tax payer funded salaries.

Ron DeSastrous pulled out of the primary, ending one of the most disappointing runs in recent memory. Two horse race now. I’m hoping Haley beats out the Orange Menace in NH, setting up a battle in SC. Maybe we even get a debate.

^ Funny fact, Trump is crazier than Biden is senile Wonder how this one is going to play out.

My (wishful) prediction was for New Hampshire.

It's over. Everyone knows it but Nikki. Additionally, Nikki is showing herself as a Romney "Republican" who has no principles beyond self-aggrandizement.

"We’re also going to place strong protections to stop banks and regulators from trying to debank you from your, you know, your political beliefs. What they do, they want to debank you. And we are going to debank, think of this. They want to take away your rights. They want to take away your country, the things you’re doing. All electric cars. Give me a break. If you want an electric car, good. But they don’t go far. They’re very expensive,” Bigly genius

"We’re also going to place strong protections to stop banks and regulators from trying to debank you from your, you know, your political beliefs." Except that New York tried to do just that to the NRA and gun manufacturers.

^you are able to express an idea better than Trump

^ I'll take the right idea, inartfully expressed, over the Democrats' dislike of freedom.

^ So the right idea inartfully expressed is calling opponents names, rude bullying behavior , belittling our military and offending our allies. Gotcha Sport

^Our allies? You mean the fucking leeches who are sucking us dry? Anyone who would choose Trump over a Romney republican is insane. I say this to every fucking Trump supporter: A vote for Trump is a vote for the Democratic party's left wing. It is the fault of Trump supporters that we have thug Biden and his low class party in control and you fucking cunts are going to do it again. Trump laughs at you as he pulls his dick out of your ass stupid people.

"Gotcha Sport" Read the specific issues we were discussing before you pop off.

^ I didn’t pop off I stated a fact, vote the way you like but don’t gloss over the very real reasons why people like myself dislike that man intensely. Most that vote for him make some sort of apology like I hold my nose and vote for him, I won’t do that, I don’t care what happens but he’ll never get my vote. I suspect I’m not a minority in this country, soon we’ll have an election and we will find out how many folks feel the same way as I do.

Life is short, so I don't spend time thinking about whether I dislike politicians like Trump and Biden more or less. For democracy to work, people need to recognize the legitimacy of the winners in elections, even when they didn't vote for them. MAGA doesn't accept the current system for determining the winner. The system they want to replace it with is "if we don't win, it's not legitimate". You have to either be very stupid or very dishonest to deny that. And, obviously, that "system" is not consistent with democracy, or democracy limited by individual civil rights. I don't see this as being about Trump personally.

^The simple fact is that when an event is scheduled and the rules set forth, any change after that is cheating. Nothing should have been changed because of Covid and changing the way we voted to those fucking drop boxes was, is and always will be cheating. Biden won, but Democrats cheated, and the result is that the results aren't accepted, with good cause, by millions upon millions. In fact, any state with illegals and write in voting means fraud to me. Really funny that those who cheat and are the most undemocratic people on earth, cry about protecting democracy the loudest. Until every illegal scum is removed, no election can be trusted.

Yes, and it use to be only male property owners could vote, but that changed too. It use to be who was donating to political campaigns had to be made public, but that also changed. Under rule of law, it's up to the courts to declare changes to electoral procedures illegitimate. They have not. There will always be law breakers of some sort. You're just admitting you'll always find some excuse to call an election illegitimate, and justify mob violence, if you don't like the results.

"For democracy to work, people need to recognize the legitimacy of the winners in elections, even when they didn't vote for them. MAGA doesn't accept the current system for determining the winner." Replace "MAGA" with "a lot of people on both sides" and your statement would be more accurate. Here's some democrat-led attempts to overturn or delegitimize elections. For some reason you chose to omit them, or maybe you just don't remember. 1. The democrats' attempt to overturn the 2016 election results by gaming the electoral college https://www.politico.com/story/2016/11/democrats-electoral-college-faithless-trump-231731 2. The Russian collusion hoax, which was the headline in the NYT and CNN every single day for over two years, was a hoax. It was an attempt to delegitimize Trump's presidency when he won, fair and square. 3. Mrs. Clinton calling Mr. Trump an illegitimate president, years after she lost. https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/trumps-denial-second-big-lie-ask-hillary-clinton-rcna55764 Both parties have been hesitant to admit defeat. It's intensified in the last few years, but the democrats seem to be the ones who reignited this in 2016 when their heiress apparent got beat. Either way, both sides need to develop the character to simply admit when you've been beat, and move on.

Kind of funny that the Democrats who cheated in Florida and had to be stopped by Scotus, would still be able to convince anyone that a mild protest on 1/6 put this country in danger. The real insurrection was leftists in Seattle occupying a substantial part of a city and throwing out the civil authorities. This was with the support of Democrats who are slightly less American than kimchi. Years from now historians will look at the failure of all real Americans to throw out the lying cheating Democrats on January 6 as the beginning of the end of this once fine land. You cannot take a bag of sand, 3 eggs and some motor oil and then make a tasty cake. Similarly, you cannot take away the people who founded and created this once great land, replace them with losers from shithole countries and expect the same results.

@5footguy Those are false equivalences. Not even close. Hilary conceded the election on election night. It’s on video. The Fat Orange Man falsely declared himself the winner on election night, while votes were still being counted. He pushed his VP to not certify the election. He engineered a scheme to infiltrate the elector system in multiple states. It’s not even close. Things like him tweeting yesterday 40 times about E Jean Carroll, a woman he raped, on the day of his wedding anniversary? That’s funny and won’t sway votes. Refusing to concede an election he lost WHICH HE HAS STILL NEVER CONCEDED is not ignorable. Good luck tonight, Nikki.

E. Jean Carroll is a fraud and a liar, just like every other progressive.

@Hank My examples were not an attempt to establish an equivalence. ilbbaicnl said "people need to recognize the legitimacy of the winners in elections". Hillary may have conceded on election night, but she said years later that the president was not a legitimate one. That's the definition of not "recognizing the legitimacy of the winners in elections." Was Trump convicted of rape? I was not aware. I do know of a plethora of accusations against Bill Clinton, none of which he has been convicted of either (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Clinton_sexual_assault_and_misconduct_allegations for a list). These aren't the first democrat and republican politicians accused of sexual assault, and they won't be the last. I guess it triggers you that Trump is just so smug, whereas Bill had the discretion to not troll his victims. When you say things like "Fat Orange Man" you should not expect anyone except those with your same biases to take you seriously. It actually sounds like something childish Trump would say about one of his opponents. If people would consider adopting a more nuanced political stance instead of sucking the cocks of the politicians who don't give a shit about them, they would be amazed at how childish both sides look. You can still believe in something and not be a tool. They look like this: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GD06NgKWwAAk75w?format=jpg&name=medium

Not convicted of rape. A civil jury deliberated about 3 hours to find that he fingered E Jean Carroll against her will in a department store. To use Mango Unchained’s own words, he grabbed her by the pussy. When she later said he raped her, the Kentucky Fried President sued her for slander, saying he didn’t rape her, he just fingered bet against her will. The court dismissed his lawsuit saying fingering is rape. Criminal conviction for rape, no? Am I correct in saying he raped her? A court of law says yes. If you want to bring up accusations against other democrats, go ahead. There are another 20+ women who’ve accused the Fat Orange Man of more of the same. Or, you could just believe him when he tells you he did it.

You are 100% correct that evidence did not enter the courtroom. It was a she said, he said case. Except Mar A Lardo didn’t put on a defense. No evidence. No testimony. Didn’t even take the stand to deny it. Hard to say a a case is rigged if you don’t proclaim your innocence.

Yet, he’s in the exact same place right now but keeps showing up in court and asking to testify in his business fraud trial and the latest E Jean Carroll trial.

Primary results are in. Looks like November will be a rematch of 2020. Fucking great.

Looks like Haley consolidated a lot of the anti Trump voters. Still looks bad for her. But that can't be the win Trump hoped for.

Goes to show the only folks actually scared of Trump are Republicans and Maga conservatives, especially the ones that proclaim they hold their nose whilst voting for him. Liberals and Independents are voting against that liar.

Haley with a surprisingly spry showing in New Hampshire, but this is garbage time. The American people say they don't want Trump vs. Biden, but they're voting and caucusing for Trump vs. Biden.

^^ The media TOLD you no one wants Trump vs. Biden. If you believe that, well...

Silver lining - if Trump wins the Presidency we get to watch the lefty MSM melt down and all the idle, ugly people uselessly protest in dysfunctional Democrat run cities like Philly, where I work.

Real Republicans support Haley. Fake, un-American republicans support Trump. They are the exact same as progressives, just the other side of the filthy coin. Simple fact is that anyone voting for Trump or the Democrats is a traitor to the United States Constitution. They lie to us and themselves about their independence as they bend over and give up their ass to Trump. Liberals are vermin. Progressives worse and they are just like Trump supporters.

Trump whipped up a crowd, and then a minority of that crowd tried to violently end democracy in the US, and make Trump a dictator. Trump aided that insurrection, by not acting to stop it. He could have gotten on Fox immediately and said don't do this in my name. Officers in the DC National Guard called the Secretary of Defense, and asked for the order to go defend the Capitol. He didn't take the call. The officers considered breaking the chain of command, deploying without permission, and resigning the next day. When they finally got the Secretary's permission to go to the Capitol, the troops were there in under a half an hour.

There’s lots of talk about a fresh candidate. Former Indiana governor Mitch Daniels should have ran in 2016. He has broad appeal to both parties. But his wife doesn’t like politics. He will be 75 in April so now his time has passed (even though he’s still younger than either Trump or Biden). Wishing he would have ran and the country would have avoided the whole Trump/Biden mess.

Haley is showing herself to be Romney 2.0, a career is who will say anything, take any position to advance her career. She's now the Democrats' favorite Republican. But she'll never be president. There's one serious candidate left in this cycle who can turn America back in a positive direction, and that's Donald Trump.

I’m not confident Trump could beat Biden in rematch, which is a real bummer and a reason I’m hoping Haley wins the nomination - I think she can actually win the general election. Trump seems to be losing ground in the polls lately as well. https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/2024/pennsylvania/

WTF is going on with his neck? He can’t dance in a topless club with that thing. Nude clubs only. https://tuscl.net/photo/13708

The inability of humans to recognize their own biases is a huge weakness, and one I actively seek to exploit as often as possible in competitive situations. When you can't say anything critical of your own party, only criticizing the opposition, you've proved that you are a slave to your own mind and biases, and you love the taste of that political cock you keep gagging on. Keep it up. It's entertaining to the few among us who are capable of nuance. Kind of like watching kids cry over not getting their way or monkeys flinging poo at each other.

Come down from your pedestal. It’s a thread about the republican primary. One party.

Historians may look back on Trump's first term as good thing on the whole. The Democrat are now more afraid to keep sending more blue collar jobs overseas. But, his efforts to stop Biden from taking office make it's clear a second Trump term is likely to lead to the end of democracy in the US. But, the people who think he did anything significant with regards to immigration are living in a dream world. He just used it for grandstanding, just like politicians use the drug abuse problem.

Laddie marmalade won his primary and had a meltdown, LULZ

"But, his efforts to stop Biden from taking office make it's clear a second Trump term is likely to lead to the end of democracy in the US." No, drama queen. Everyone outside the left's circle jerk stopped caring about 1/6 a long time ago. Everyone inside just flogs it to distract from the dumpster fire that is Biden's agenda. If you want to play the fear agenda, at least do so on abortion where you have a SMALL point.

Gam - Josh Hawley is a moron; Ted Cruz a great lawyer and shitty legislator; Kristi Noem, a big fish in a tiny little pond, Tommy Tuberville isa fucking retard and fucking up the military over his religious views on abortion makes him no better than a cunt like Ilhan Omer; Ric Scott a mediocrity, Sean Hannity should get cancer and the rest of the nitiwts you name? Total zeros. How about this why not post each person's whom you name, greatest legislative achievement and we will go from there. Hannity roflmao, the other side of the 1 cent Stephen Colbert coin. Donal Trump is a traitor to this country making him the exact same as every Democrat, which coincidentally was his party for the vast majority of his life. Like benedict Arnold, he changed sides.

Gammanu if you’d like to make it personal go right ahead we know you have orange lips, and they’re not from eating Chitos it’s from all that orange cock you suck.

"a second Trump term is likely to lead to the end of democracy in the US" Max cringe on parroted talking points. Only failed climate change predictions sound more alarmist and extreme than that. "Don't give this guy the nuclear codes, it'll be WW3!" they said, immediately preceding a Trump presidency in which America saw the horror of hundreds of rude tweets, but was for once not jumping into every war it could help start. There is no "end of democracy." Just the slow erosion of it. One way I see this is by allowing non-U.S. citizens to vote. These resources show cases where local government has allowed non-U.S. citizens to vote in local elections. Could be a stepping stone to non-local elections. https://cis.org/Richwine/Over-42000-NonCitizens-Including-Perhaps-20000-Illegal-Immigrants-Could-Vote-DC-Elections https://stateline.org/2021/07/01/noncitizens-are-slowly-gaining-voting-rights/

Until every foreign fuck who came here illegally, no matter when, is removed then there is no democracy worth saving. A country without borders is not a country.

So Haley didn't drop out. Not sure what she's banking on. If the polls are to be believed she's at like 25 percent in South Carolina. It's also possible at this point she's being encouraged to stay in to be the Washington Generals to Trump as the Harlem Globetrotters. "Trump wins again" makes good headlines and strokes his ego.

^ she’s going to stay in as long as she can, the longer she can keep fundraising the more clout she has going forward, and the longer she stays in the more money she’ll make from speeches and corporate boards in the near future. She’ll walk out of this election cycle a rich bitch, probably get a hundred million for a book she’ll get someone to ghostwrite for her etc…………

^ So sorry she's not a quitter like a Democrat. Maybe she could sell out to Iran like Biden.

^ Or China like Trump