Flaking

The first few girls who agreed to meet me OTC flaked. It was a long time ago, so I don't remember the details, but I don't think they simply ghosted me. If memory serves, the first one came the closest. She didn't text back when I checked in with her a little before, but she did get back to me like an hour or two after we were supposed to meet and apologized. Another canceled the day before. One responded to my check in to say she hurt her knee, which I thought was BS until a week later when we did meet up and I found her leg in a splint. But the initial string of flakes gave way to a run of good luck the other way, and then as you say it probably was 50/50 for a while. Lately though, its much less of an issue. Partially I'm sure because most of my OTC is with a dancers I've known a bit and made so called appointments to see ITC a few times first. Similar to your approach, that one has a built in plan b. If I make plans to meet a stripper at the club, and she flakes, I'm at the club anyway and just find a new one. If we've kept plans to meet up ITC a few times, then OTC a few times, it's obvious we both find it mutually beneficial so flaking is rare. Sure, meeting up OTC isn't top priority for either of us so sometimes shit happens and we have to reschedule. But that goes both ways equally and is generally done with some notice. Maybe 1 in 10 or less don't follow through. Fairly often, the girls are texting me asking if they can meet up OTC. They almost always follow through when they initiate. Also, I tend to bring OTC girls home and it's on days when I wouldn't really be doing anything anyway. So it's not like I'm wasting my Friday night getting stood up, or shelling out for a hotel I didn't need or anything. So impact when a girl does flake is pretty slim. I'll just stay in on my Tuesday afternoon and catch something on Netflix or whatever. One other thing, I tend to be pretty unforgiving about total flaking. If a dancer just doesn't text me after a planned meet up, and I run into her after a couple weeks of no communication, I pretty much take OTC off the table with her and in many cases stop talking to her ITC since most of my time ITC is simply to setup OTC. I don't get upset about cancellations, even lat minute or even after the fact. But if more than a few days go by and she doesn't reach out to apologize, I lose interest.

No shows are common. I might have been upset years ago when I first started OTC, but now I just see flaking as inevitable. It is less likely to happen with a stripper you have known for some time. Strippers are flakes. They lead messy lives. They drink, take drugs, fight with boyfriends, go to jail. It's surprising they ever show up at all.

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It happens, but in my experience it doesn’t happen too often. I’m guessing not more than 10% of the time. When it does happen, it’s a first time meet situation when I’m on the road and have a hotel room anyway, so no big deal. It’s never happened with one of the girls from my local club that I know well. That’s not to say they have never canceled on me. But the few times they did, they texted me to let me know they had a conflict and apologized for having to cancel. I don’t consider that flaking.

Probably greater than 50% rate on first time “dates”. Very rare after we’ve connected at least once, excluding situations where there were plausible excuses, which I don’t consider “flaking” I don’t get upset but just won’t waste any more time on somebody who flakes on an OTC meetup absent a good excuse. The sunk cost of the hotel isn’t an issue when I’m traveling since I would incur that cost anyway. On the rare occasion when I set one up locally I use dayuse.com. No non refundable cancellation fee and you can get good rates for short duration stays at decent chain hotels

“ Probably greater than 50% rate on first time “dates”. Very rare after we’ve connected at least once, excluding situations where there were plausible excuses, which I don’t consider “flaking”” ^I think Manuellabore is probably about right with that guesstimate. As far as sunk costs, as others have said, it’s smart to have a backup plan to avoid an unused room fee if possible. I think OTC is one of those things where you get better at it as you go but also get surprised just often enough to remember it’s always hit or miss.

Similar experience, many years ago it would happen 50/50. These days I'm much more particular about who I ask for OTC. I'm much more selective about high quality of ladies, including looks, personality, brains and cleanliness for sure. Even if these dancers want more money, that's fine with me. So over the last 4-5 years I have not had one dance flake out or cancel.

same. i only otc with girls i've itc for a while. haven't had a no show in easily 5 years

Wish my flake rate was only 10%. No doubt that rate gets worse when the price is lower, with all that entails. The offset for a higher flake rate is less money buys more opportunity. Also, there's the flake rate and the late rate. Hate to think how much time I spent waiting. Oy.

My success rate with same night OTC is near 100%, though I haven't had the luxury of doing that for some while now. It's a "strike while the iron's hot" situation. If things suck in the club and she's already out of the house hustling, it's just a cash collection side stop on her way home. Planning in advance is a different matter. With first time girls I'd say it's 50/50. At least the ones that flake usually have the decency to respond to my same day confirmation text with some excuse or another. Like some others here, with a first time girl I don't book the hotel until i receive confirmation that she's on her way.

⚡ Yeah, Really Watch It With OTC. Make Sure You Know Your Girl, & B Sure She Will Actually Follow Through.